Driving in Cardiff

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Paul M

Why not, everyone seems happy to apply that rule to car drivers.

You think that vehicle insurance is a universal requirement because there are a few bad drivers ?

Originally Posted by Paul M

They also cause it.
Many times in Nottingham I have seen queues of traffic because the vehicle at the front doesnt have room to get past a cyclist (without knocking them off).

You think cyclists are responsible for road traffic congestion not the overwhelming volume of motorised traffic ?

Originally Posted by martyh

For many the reason they cycle is because they don't need to pass tests or buy insurance and tax if you start adding those conditions to cycling then many will stop cycling and buy cars adding to congestion .Whichever way you look at it cyclists do prevent a hell of a lot of congestion

I agree and I'm also impressed. Our previous discussion wasn't wasted then?

Originally Posted by Kursk

You think that vehicle insurance is a universal requirement because there are a few bad drivers ?



You think cyclists are responsible for road traffic congestion not the overwhelming volume of motorised traffic ?



I agree and I'm also impressed. Our previous discussion wasn't wasted then?

Absolutely not ,i still think that some inner city cyclists need to be more aware but forcing them to have insurance and pass tests would be counter productive and also largely unenforceable.Having said that some form of incentive to take proficiency tests for those inner city cyclists may be advantageous .

[rogerdraig]

all for enforcing the highway code but a lot of markings in cardiff are hard to see , are confusing and as for the box junctions often imposible to see the exit or if its going to be free

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by martyh

Absolutely not ,i still think that some inner city cyclists need to be more aware but forcing them to have insurance and pass tests would be counter productive and also largely unenforceable.Having said that some form of incentive to take proficiency tests for those inner city cyclists may be advantageous .

Fair enough. Inner-City cycling is inherently dangerous even for those who are proficient but I agree it can do no harm to raise standards.

Kids are the biggest worry. Getting your first bike is a wonderful thing but the roads are just not safe enough for them and that is very sad.

I feel something more radical that cycle lanes is needed; I'd like to see cycle-only routes with certain roads permanently closed to motorised users, residents excepted (and main routes closed to cycles). Kids could then use bikes safely, get healthier and lose weight and a lot of 2/4 wheeled angst could be avoided!