EU demand extra £1.7bn from UK - Page 2

papa smurf · 24-10-2014, 15:37

we all know daves going to pay up he just needs to kick up a fuss to look good first

Gary L · 24-10-2014, 15:44

He'll put on his fat cross face and say something about he's told them that in no uncertain terms. and the reporter will say did you pay them?

and he'll say yes, but that is not the point!

Ignitionnet · 24-10-2014, 15:55

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

we all know daves going to pay up he just needs to kick up a fuss to look good first

Indeed. Angela Merkel has already said he's fine with the amount just upset about the timing.

While not to the sycophantic extremes of Nick Clegg DC is a supporter of the EU project.

This is a no-win for him though however he tries to spin it. It's also a no-win for Labour, they are Europhiles. The Lib Dems we already know would have us in a USE at the earliest opportunity, Labour have tried somewhat to hedge their bets however this will push some more of their support over to the purple side.

Sirius · 24-10-2014, 16:02

Well done EU, you have just made UKIP's day

Role on the day we can tell the EU to feck off

denphone · 24-10-2014, 16:28

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Well done EU, you have just made UKIP's day

Role on the day we can tell the EU to feck off

That's not likely to happen anytime soon old bean.

heero_yuy · 24-10-2014, 16:29

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Originally Posted by denphone

Well Dave and George are always spouting on that our economy is booming so here is their chance to prove it.

Den, are you saying we should pay this money as a fine on the success of our economy? How many NHS nurses, doctors and ops could that money purchase?

Trust the EU to reward failure and penalise success.

The answer is simple: Stop writing ALL the cheques and see how long it takes to cow the EU when it looses £8 billion net. We have the winning hand as a major net contributor trust Dave not to play it.

denphone · 24-10-2014, 16:38

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Den, are you saying we should pay this money as a fine on the success of our economy? How many NHS nurses, doctors and ops could that money purchase?

Trust the EU to reward failure and penalise success.

The answer is simple: Stop writing ALL the cheques and see how long it takes to cow the EU when it looses £8 billion net. We have the winning hand as a major net contributor trust Dave not to play it.

We are part of the EU club and as such knew this was coming and as such we can't just pick and choose what we want all the time and then not have what does not suit us.

If people don't like it then there is the ballot box but don't expect us to pull out of Europe anytime soon as it simply won't happen as the good majority of people in this country would rather have us in Europe negotiating rather then having certain xenophobic politicians and groups pulling a strop and constantly spouting that we should pull out of Europe as soon as possible.

heero_yuy · 24-10-2014, 16:42

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Originally Posted by denphone

We are part of the EU club and as such knew this was coming and as such we can't just pick and choose what we want all the time and then not have what does not suit us.

If people don't like it then there is the ballot box but don't expect us to pull out of Europe anytime soon as it simply won't happen as the good majority of people in this country would rather have us in Europe negotiating rather then having certain xenophobic politicians and groups pulling a strop and constantly spouting that we should pull out of Europe as soon as possible.

The only vote there has ever been was for a common market trading bloc. Not this nonsense.

Roll on a UKIP balance of power holding at the next election and consign the EU mess to the scrap heap of history.

Matth · 24-10-2014, 16:47

And how much of it will go down the great sinkhole of EU bureaucracy, waste and extravagance. If Cameron gets back in, then I hope the EU calls our bluff, and he sticks to his guns and offers a fair and honest referendum.

Sadly, I think it WILL be vote Farage, get Miliband - pity we never got alternative vote, as that would have allowed voting for who you really want, and for best chance of defeating who you don't want.

denphone · 24-10-2014, 16:49

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

The only vote there has ever been was for a common market trading bloc. Not this nonsense.

Roll on a UKIP balance of power holding at the next election and consign the EU mess to the scrap heap of history.

You are overestimating the influence of UKIP at the coming May General Election as many will opt for either the Conservatives or Labour when in the privacy of the polling booth and as such thankfully the party of racist's and bigot's will be very much on the outside periphery without any influence at all.

Osem · 24-10-2014, 16:52

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Originally Posted by denphone

We are part of the EU club and as such knew this was coming and as such we can't just pick and choose what we want all the time and then not have what does not suit us.
If people don't like it then there is the ballot box but don't expect us to pull out of Europe anytime soon as it simply won't happen as the good majority of people in this country would rather have us in Europe negotiating rather then having certain xenophobic politicians and groups pulling a strop and constantly spouting that we should pull out of Europe as soon as possible.

Why not? There was I thinking that's what the French have been doing for years...

What exactly is it that we've successfully picked and chosen all the time? Got a nice long list?

djfunkdup · 24-10-2014, 17:01

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Got a nice long list?

Don't hold your breath waiting for a response m8 .....

Ignitionnet · 24-10-2014, 17:04

If you want a real chuckle think of this - Greece are going to have to borrow another E89 million due to their economy overperforming.

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Originally Posted by denphone

You are overestimating the influence of UKIP at the coming May General Election as many will opt for either the Conservatives or Labour when in the privacy of the polling booth and as such thankfully the party of racist's and bigot's will be very much on the outside periphery without any influence at all.

Do you not think it's perhaps a tad bigoted dismissing people who have voted UKIP as bigots?

Sorry and all that but you're coming across as having a bit of a Gordon Brown moment.

denphone · 24-10-2014, 17:09

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Why not? There was I thinking that's what the French have been doing for years...

What exactly is it that we've successfully picked and chosen all the time? Got a nice long list?

I you want us to go back to being Little England and pull out of the EU then this country will be much worse off in the long run as we are much better off being on the inside negotiating rather then being on the outside without a ounce of influence.

Osem · 24-10-2014, 17:14

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I you want us to go back to being Little England and pull out of the EU then this country will be much worse off in the long run as we are much better off being on the inside negotiating rather then being on the outside without a ounce of influence.

I didn't say that. I asked you to justify your comment which you haven't done.
Care to try again?