Scottish Independence - The Cable Forum Vote

[alferret]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Our government set it up, hows it unfair? I love it as need a lot of medication.

Also free nhs eye tests in Scotland.

It's unfair because we English tax payers pay for your prescriptions/eye tests and dental but have to continue paying for ours. Simple really!

I read somewhere that if Scotland does gain independence then it will become Europe's first third world country, poorer than all the old eastern block countries, Greece, Spain etc and that the Eurozone will have pick up the tab, which will still cost the UK.

As an Englishman I say if they want to go then go, sod off and stop sponging, stick up a wall, close the border and see how long it is before you come crawling back.
Those that vote no know which side their bread is buttered!

[Nidge41]

Originally Posted by Rob

What I want to know is why the Scots get the right to vote on whether to leave or not, but the rest of the UK doesn't get a choice. Surely we should have a right to decide if to kick the Scots out or not?

Because the UK voter would vote for them to go it alone IMO.

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Originally Posted by alferret

It's unfair because we English tax payers pay for your prescriptions/eye tests and dental but have to continue paying for ours. Simple really!

I read somewhere that if Scotland does gain independence then it will become Europe's first third world country, poorer than all the old eastern block countries, Greece, Spain etc and that the Eurozone will have pick up the tab, which will still cost the UK.

As an Englishman I say if they want to go then go, sod off and stop sponging, stick up a wall, close the border and see how long it is before you come crawling back.
Those that vote no know which side their bread is buttered!

Can't add much to the above only, "it's bang on the money."

[LondonRoad]

Originally Posted by Nidge41

Because the UK voter would vote for them to go it alone IMO.

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Can't add much to the above only, "it's bang on the money."

"Bang on the money" is usually backed up with modicum of facts..... none available in either post.

It's ill informed drivel like this that plays directly into the Yes vote camp.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by alferret

It's unfair because we English tax payers pay for your prescriptions/eye tests and dental but have to continue paying for ours. Simple really!

I read somewhere that if Scotland does gain independence then it will become Europe's first third world country, poorer than all the old eastern block countries, Greece, Spain etc and that the Eurozone will have pick up the tab, which will still cost the UK.

As an Englishman I say if they want to go then go, sod off and stop sponging, stick up a wall, close the border and see how long it is before you come crawling back.
Those that vote no know which side their bread is buttered!

Do you have evidence to back this claim up??

I am pretty sure that us Scottish tax payers are the ones paying for this.

Scotland's NHS is a different organisation so I don't think English people pay (we might do for Wales however). It's also absurd to suggest Scotland would be 'Europe's first third world country'. Scotland currently contributes more than it gets so it won't suddenly find itself in dire circumstances if they vote Yes.

However I think they won't be able to afford what the SNP are promising, that they'll need to find alternative sources of income when the Oil becomes too expensive to extract (and alternative energy may not be enough to compensate), and that their currency plans are flawed.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by alferret

It's unfair because we English tax payers pay for your prescriptions/eye tests and dental but have to continue paying for ours. Simple really!

Erm....our taxes go towards prescriptions too! Anyone would think it's only the English who pay tax!

Originally Posted by Russ

Erm....our taxes go towards prescriptions too! Anyone would think it's only the English who pay tax!

Yeah but we don't get them free is his point. We all pay taxes but we don't all get free prescriptions and, unlike Scotland, we're all paying into the same pot.

[Russ]

Unfortunately there is no tick-box system for where our taxes go.

On a humanitarian level I'm surprised so few English people are in favour of this. Free prescriptions have improved the health of Welsh people as those requiring medication in the past were often put off by the cost

Strangely enough, 88% of all prescription items in England are prescribed free of charge.

http://www.politics.co.uk/reference/...iption-charges

The other 12% appears to have raised £9 billion (in 2011-12).

Originally Posted by Hugh

Strangely enough, 88% of all prescription items in England are prescribed free of charge.

http://www.politics.co.uk/reference/...iption-charges

The other 12% appears to have raised £9 billion (in 2011-12).

Well there are a lot of exemptions. Young people, old people, and people with medical conditions. Naturally the latter two camps are the ones who need the most medications, having repeat prescriptions etc. I don't actually mind paying for my own prescriptions anyway, I rarely if ever have needed anything. I was just pointing out why it would be perceived as unfair.

[richard s]

Note that the English tax payer contributes £35 billion to the Scottish people, if this stops how will the Scots survive.

[jamiefrost]

By raising their own money via taxation just the same way as it happens now. The argument is how much and for how long?

J

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Strangely enough, 88% of all prescription items in England are prescribed free of charge.

http://www.politics.co.uk/reference/...iption-charges

The other 12% appears to have raised £9 billion (in 2011-12).

And praise be to god that l don't have to pay for all my prescriptions as that would cost a pretty penny so l am very grateful to those who have to pay to cover people like me and many others.

[Wad_2002]

Originally Posted by alferret

It's unfair because we English tax payers pay for your prescriptions/eye tests and dental but have to continue paying for ours. Simple really!

I read somewhere that if Scotland does gain independence then it will become Europe's first third world country, poorer than all the old eastern block countries, Greece, Spain etc and that the Eurozone will have pick up the tab, which will still cost the UK.

As an Englishman I say if they want to go then go, sod off and stop sponging, stick up a wall, close the border and see how long it is before you come crawling back.
Those that vote no know which side their bread is buttered!

lol what a load of rubbish.

By any chance did you read this on a leaflet that came through your letterbox?

[alferret]

Originally Posted by Wad_2002

lol what a load of rubbish.

By any chance did you read this on a leaflet that came through your letterbox?

Of course you'll say it's rubbish.
My wife has to pay for her prescriptions if she lived north of the border she would get these for free, so whilst we all pay taxes we have the added expense of paying prescription charges where as you may pay taxes you don't pay for prescriptions. Fair? I think not!
As for where I read it, I can't remember but I'll look later.