driving licence warning

...anybody mentioned yet that it's a great way to eek more money from the poor motorist? No? Oh well - there you go - I've said it now!

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by martyh

Now who's being paranoid .

I don't think everyone else on the road is dodgy at all ,i do know that some are and photo cards easily catch them out instead of leaving poor smucks like me or you to pick up the bill .At the end of the day you will have to change it whether you like it or not and as i pointed out before you've had since 1998 so it isn't exactly a big surprise ,and fact that you know who you are is simply not good enough in this day and age of fraud and identity theft

have you ever thought that the reason for so much identity theft is your identity is plastered over every unsafe data base that exists ,and the more forms of id you have the more chance there is of stealing it .

Originally Posted by Rob

Yes I keep my passport up to date because it has a 10 year expiry date.

My paper type driving licence states it is valid until 2034, at which point I know I would then have needed to replace it (if I hadn't moved before, got an endorsement, etc). There has been no notice, that I am aware of until this thread, that the paper style licence was being completely scrapped.

The paper licence is still retained and valid until you are 70 ,it is the photo on the plastic part that has a 10yr expiry date for obvious reasons ,the same ones that apply to your passport

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

have you ever thought that the reason for so much identity theft is your identity is plastered over every unsafe data base that exists ,and the more forms of id you have the more chance there is of stealing it .

Not really no ,being able to prove you are who you say you are by means of an officially recognised photo is a lot better than having someone simply saying they are someone and producing a stolen leccy bill from a bin liner to prove it as used to be the case .ID fraud is a result of being able to gain services and products by electronic data exchange without actually being present not by having a photo licence

[papa smurf]

just found this


What about the old style paper licences?
The AA website states that if you still have a paper driving licence you don't have to worry about ten yearly updates, though you must still notify DVLA of name or address changes.
It also says that parliament has given powers to recall all paper licences so the more secure photo card licences will be held by everyone, but no date has been set for this, and the Government is well aware that it would be controversial to make everyone buy a new licence.
The AA has said that if the government insists on everyone changing, it should phase in such a move and subsidise the cost.
Keeping the details on your paper licence up to date will ensure that DVLA is able to tell you when this is happening and if you need to do something.


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[SnoopZ]

Where does it say the paper license is illegal and not valid as i have 1 of these and i am told it is legal to use it, i only need to update it if i move house etc?

edit

Papa answered my question with his post.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by SnoopZ

Where does it say the paper license is illegal and not valid as i have 1 of these and i am told it is legal to use it, i only need to update it if i move house etc?

edit

Papa answered my question with his post.

i think the paper half of the new 2 part driving licence may be what is being phased out and the details kept on a data base .

[Hom3r]

I have a euro style licence and will NOT update unless I have to.

The photo one is just a cash cow to screw the motorist yet again.

[papa smurf]

the more i read up about this the more confusing it seems to get

[Osem]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

i think the paper half of the new 2 part driving licence may be what is being phased out and the details kept on a data base .

That's my understanding too.

The original old style, paper only, licence is still going to remain valid for the time being.

Originally Posted by papa smurf

i think the paper half of the new 2 part driving licence may be what is being phased out and the details kept on a data base .

just to clear things up ALL paper licences are being phased out starting in 2015 .That means that if you move house or get an endorsement after that date you will have to get a photo licence ,the new paper counterpart of the photo licence is also being phased out as it is not needed .Also it is likely that the legal requirement to have a certificate of insurance will be removed thus allowing people to tax a car without producing proof of insurance (the same as the mot certificate requirement was removed some years ago) .

Also just to be clear it is the photo on the licence that has to be updated every 10 yrs ,this does not mean your licence is invalid ,your licence is still valid untill you are 70


like i said in my OP ..... it's no biggie but the fuss some are kicking up is totally unwarranted

I already checked last year when I would have to renew but it's still nice to be reminded. We'll see if the DVLA bother notifying me.

[v0id]

I don't have a photocard, my licence doesn't expire.
I'm never moving house again so I dont ever have to get one until I'm 70 (If I'm still around and able to drive), and then it's free

Photo licences had only been around for 12 months or so when I got one - that meant I was among the first to have to renew the photocard. The new one caused a few double-takes when used as proof of ID as its design differs in some respects from the original, causing some people to wonder if it was a fake.

Still, I prefer having a photo licence to a paper one as it gives me the convenience of easy proof of ID, without a horrendous, intrusive national ID database to back it up. It's also useful when flying to Ireland. I've only ever flashed a driver's photocard at immigration control in Dublin, much to the bemusement of the massed hordes waving their unnecessary passports.

Originally Posted by Chris

Photo licences had only been around for 12 months or so when I got one - that meant I was among the first to have to renew the photocard. The new one caused a few double-takes when used as proof of ID as its design differs in some respects from the original, causing some people to wonder if it was a fake.

Still, I prefer having a photo licence to a paper one as it gives me the convenience of easy proof of ID, without a horrendous, intrusive national ID database to back it up. It's also useful when flying to Ireland. I've only ever flashed a driver's photocard at immigration control in Dublin, much to the bemusement of the massed hordes waving their unnecessary passports.

They may have that trouble again as the design is changing later this month , and shock, horror there is also talk of putting a union jack on the front next to the EU logo .

just as an aside it may be worth looking at this for the new driving/towing rules coming in on the 19th jan ,chiefly affects new drivers though

http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/changes-t...9-january-2013

[MovedGoalPosts]

Originally Posted by martyh

The paper licence is still retained and valid until you are 70 ,it is the photo on the plastic part that has a 10yr expiry date for obvious reasons ,the same ones that apply to your passport

I am talking of the older style paper licence that did not require a photocard.