HD Is BT a threat to Virgin Media - Page 2

Stuart · 31-07-2012, 17:07

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I don't agree, Stuart. BT have a very long way to go before they are anywhere near Virgin Media's offerings.

However, VM will need to factor in the fact that they have a new competitor for the longer term. Let's hope they have a better relationship with BT than they do with Sky!

Three years ago, they weren't a competitor at all. There wasn't even any sign that they were considering competing.

BT are installing infinity at a rate of knots. I'd be surprised if it weren't available in all Virgin cabled areas before this time next year. I suspect the infrastructure needed to distribute the content to each individual town is already installed. BT have spent a lot of money upgrading their back end infrastructure, and they've already shown they've got the cash to buy up content.

I don't think BT are just a long-term competitor. I think are already competing in a lot of areas, and will cover Virgin's entire cabled network in a few months.

LexDiamond · 31-07-2012, 17:38

BT is a threat to VM. Its new STBs will be Youview based therefore will be capable of receiving Sky channels. This along with Infinity is definately competition for VM.

yorkshireborn · 31-07-2012, 18:18

at the current rate BT vision/infinity are growning in 2 or 3 years they will pass VM.

Telly_ · 31-07-2012, 19:03

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Originally Posted by jb66

Virgin can compete with bt very easily, they need to make a pvr that's like bt vision, a TiVo over Ethernet rather than coax cable. Have all channels streaming, sky sports 1234 etc.

I think VM are reluctant to start selling all service via other networks as it give more chance of them being forced to open the cable network.

denphone · 31-07-2012, 19:25

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Originally Posted by yorkshireborn

at the current rate BT vision/infinity are growning in 2 or 3 years they will pass VM.

Somehow l cannot see that happening anytime soon.

yorkshireborn · 31-07-2012, 19:42

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Originally Posted by denphone

Somehow l cannot see that happening anytime soon.

I didn't say soon i said 2 to 3 years

Telly_ · 31-07-2012, 19:45

Rumours now appearing that BT's Youview/vision box is going to carry Sky Atlantic although it's costing them a lot.

andy_m · 31-07-2012, 20:00

Source?

Most recent info I've seen is that talk talk have a deal for Sky channels that excludes Atlantic on their youview box, but Bt aren't likely to achieve the same on their youview box.

denphone · 31-07-2012, 20:04

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Originally Posted by Telly_

Rumours now appearing that BT's Youview/vision box is going to carry Sky Atlantic although it's costing them a lot.

Utter nonsense thats for sure.

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Originally Posted by yorkshireborn

I didn't say soon i said 2 to 3 years

Not even in 2 to 3 years methinks but l have been wrong before.

spiderplant · 31-07-2012, 20:29

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Originally Posted by andy_m

Source?

Post #22 I expect.

That's the good thing about rumours. You can say anything is rumoured, and it magically is.

passingbat · 31-07-2012, 20:29

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Originally Posted by Telly_

Rumours now appearing that BT's Youview/vision box is going to carry Sky Atlantic although it's costing them a lot.

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Originally Posted by denphone

Utter nonsense thats for sure.

Why would it be nonsense Den?

BT have a bargaining chip to get Sky Atlantic, and that is their newly aquired sports rights.

I don't know wheather they have done the deal or not, but I can see how it could be possible. VM have no such bargaining chip these days; they sold them all.

31-07-2012, 20:43

And does everyone think VM are standing still?

passingbat · 31-07-2012, 20:59

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Originally Posted by Top banana

And does everyone think VM are standing still?

They are not standing still on a lot of things. But when VM was the only show in town with fast fibre BB, then content wasn't necessarily king. But now, when fast fibre BB is available to all TV/film content providors, then content does become king and VM need to ensure that they don't fall behind. They also need to keep up with Sky on ipad functionality and they need to be ahead of Sky on multiroom streaming.

denphone · 31-07-2012, 21:06

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Originally Posted by Top banana

And does everyone think VM are standing still?

VM are not standing still as we are likely to find out later in the year and as we have already seen with one million TiVo sales..

andy_m · 31-07-2012, 21:06

Bt's bargaining chip is also the thing that makes them a competitor, hence Sky doing business with talk talk but not with Bt. I think Bt are going to have to force their way into the top two, they can't expect that a few football rights are going to be enough to trade against access to the full stable of Sky channels when their stated aim is to become Sky's biggest rival.