Netflix data warning

[Gavin78]

57 gig upload seems a lot for a month?

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Nope Sky's ADSL product and Upto 40/2...

So it is standard ADSL. I was right.

Sigggghhhhhh!

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by Gavin78

57 gig upload seems a lot for a month?

I would agree , the download amount of over 400 gig is way over the average one would suspect , I suppose that amount of data is still over what many ISPs permit.

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Sigggghhhhhh!

Is there a problem, Maggy?

[LexDiamond]

Carl, you were wrong

[carlwaring]

I was not wrong. ADSL is notoriously slower than VM FO cable. However, I did mis-read pb's post which also mentions greater speeds than ADSL could ever get; which should have been a clue

[totalwar]

A few day ago got the letter and an e-mail.I have 50mb xxl package and think thoses stats above were from when started with virginmedia 13th feb.My son uploads to youtube so could explain some of the upload.He also run minecraft server.

I moved from Sky which is unlimited and never had anything like this.I had a good connection for ADSL 16mb dl and 1mb ul.



Connection

Startup Procedure
Procedure Status Comment
Acquire Downstream Channel 314750000 Hz Locked
Connectivity State OK Operational
Boot State OK Operational
Configuration File OK
Security Enabled BPI+
Downstream Channels
Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Max Raw Bit Rate Frequency Power SNR Docsis/EuroDocsis locked
Locked QAM256 62 55616000 Kbits/sec 314750000 Hz 11.7 dBmV 43.2 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 57 55616000 Kbits/sec 290750000 Hz 13.4 dBmV 44.1 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 58 55616000 Kbits/sec 298750000 Hz 12.8 dBmV 44.0 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 61 55616000 Kbits/sec 306750000 Hz 12.4 dBmV 43.3 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 63 55616000 Kbits/sec 322750000 Hz 11.4 dBmV 43.7 dB Hybrid
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB Unknown
Upstream Channels
Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Max Raw Bit Rate Frequency Power
Locked ATDMA 2 20480 Kbits/sec 35800000 Hz 45.0 dBmV
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV
Primary Downstream Service Flow
Downstream(0)
SFID 1094
Max Traffic Rate 53000000 bps
Max Traffic Burst 3044 bytes
Mix Traffic Rate 0 bps
Primary Upstream Service Flow
Upstream(0)
SFID 1093
Max Traffic Rate 5140000 bps
Max Traffic Burst 8160 bytes
Mix Traffic Rate 0 bps
Max Concatenated Burst 8160 bytes
Scheduling Type Best Effort
Current System Time:Thu May 24 17:56:12 2012

So no Netflx until after midnight no iplayer until after midnight and my son can't do any gaming until after midnight.

Sorry I been not able to post as VirginMedia cut off my connection off for the last two days for 12 hours fault in my area.

[LexDiamond]

Originally Posted by carlwaring

I was not wrong. ADSL is notoriously slower than VM FO cable. However, I did mis-read pb's post which also mentions greater speeds than ADSL could ever get; which should have been a clue

MM also gave an example of Fibre BB which is unlimited but you chose to ignore. It is not only Sky ADSL that is unlimited.

[Telly_]

Originally Posted by LexDiamond

MM also gave an example of Fibre BB which is unlimited but you chose to ignore. It is not only Sky ADSL that is unlimited.

Pleeaassseeeeeeeeeeeeeee don't quote that guy, I have him on ignore and I only see what he types if someone quotes it.

If you don't quote him I don't have to read his ramblings.

Play nicely....

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by LexDiamond

MM also gave an example of Fibre BB which is unlimited but you chose to ignore. It is not only Sky ADSL that is unlimited.

I didn't ignore it. VM is also unlimited so it was irrelevant.

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by totalwar

So no Netflx until after midnight no iplayer until after midnight and my son can't do any gaming until after midnight.

As long as you can account for all the usage (and it seems you can), just ignore the letter.

[Tezcatlipoca]

Originally Posted by carlwaring

I didn't ignore it. VM is also unlimited so it was irrelevant.

It may have unlimited usage, but unlike Sky (ADSL *and* fibre) VM broadband is subject to traffic management...which I believe was the whole point of the discussion?

The OP received a letter from VM, pointing out that their usage may trigger VM's STM.

Muppetman11 asked "how does this compare to other ISP's Traffic Management/FUP?".

Telly Bear replied with "I can tell you Sky have absolutely no management at all and you will NEVER trigger any letters or anything".

You then said "Assuming this is standard ADSL and not Infinity..."

To which, Muppetman11 then pointed out "nope Sky's ADSL product and Upto 40/2 , upto 80/20 fibre products are all completely unlimited".

[MovedGoalPosts]

Originally Posted by totalwar

A few day ago got the letter and an e-mail.I have 50mb xxl package and think thoses stats above were from when started with virginmedia 13th feb.My son uploads to youtube so could explain some of the upload.He also run minecraft server.

<snip>

Ah so my point is proven. It's unfair to say that you can't use Netflix. It's your overall usage levels that have created the issue. Even though the service is marketed as "unlimited" the reality is that VM do apply use criteria. It seems that so far people like ASA, OFCOM don't have a problem with the dictionary and public consumer definition of unlimited actually meaning some restrictions. It's just a pain that, apart from the STM thresholds we don't know what the heavy use criteria will be.

Is the minecraft server home hosted? If so, especially if it's reasonably popular, that is likely to be the real issue. At the end of the day home connections were never intended to support busy servers.