TiVo : So Long Tivo - Back to Sky - Close but no cigar!

And there's nothing wrong with SD anyway. Oh well...

Originally Posted by carlwaring

All of them; most of the time at least

So that'll be a, no they don't all work all of the time then

[carlwaring]

Well if I'd've said "yes, all the time"; sure as anything someone would say "well x didn't work for me the other day".

My point being that no computer (which is what Tivo basicically is) is perfect and guaranteed to work 100% of the time. We know that going in. We expect it.

My point being that no computer (which is what Tivo basicically is) is perfect and guaranteed to work 100% of the time. We know that going in. We expect it.[/QUOTE]

Oh my goodness, what is he on?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by LexDiamond

Another member for the Sky section

You better get your chequebook out then dear Lex.

[Doz007]

I made the same move a couple of months ago now. I loved TiVo even though the menus were a little slow but it was the lack if HD content, iOS apps and the price rise that were the final straw for me. Now I've got Sky, I'm loving all the HD channels, iPad apps and the new EPG.

[Zarf2007]

Originally Posted by carlwaring

It is a little, at timea


Which, of course, is actually nothing to do with Tivo; and VM can't be blamed for the lack of some of those HD channels.

But its still a fact, and content is king! so if I have a HD/3D TV I want the most content available for it....still if you're content with sticking with 2nd best, good luck...


Such as?

learning viewing habits....personally, i know better than tivo what i like to watch...it was niche when the original tivos were released but added to the sixteen menu deep feature list its boring....if I wanted to tinker with 1000's of features I'd build a linux HTPC such as MythTV.


Oh yes. Must have the now-seemingly obligatory personal dig at just because I don't necessarily share your opinions

(Of course, you'll notice I did agree about the UI but don't let facts get in the way of those personal digs, will you?

Well I was just stating a fact, you are a fanboy, in fact there are rumours that you are Bransons lovechild....

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Correct.


Also correct. And there's nothing wrong with SD anyway

But it isnt HD!!!! Why would I buy a HD TV to watch SD!!!! I only watch SD when there is no HD equivalent and with Sky many of the SD channels have HD equivalents and not just the 'headline' movie and sports channels.

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1. Nobody has said they are "equally as responsive".
2. Of course the Sky+ interface is quicker and simpler because it doesn't have to do as much

That maybe the case but you expect the little things to work, not constant 'doughnut' while searching my recordings or the annoying pause when it starts to record a program that you have decided to watch (and forgot to cancel the planner for). The response time to channel hopping and other features is way too slow, and this should be VM's number one priority in rectifying, but clearly isnt...

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Or perhaps it is you who are myth-taken and just happen to have a slower box. As has been said already, you should have had it looked at.

I have looked at others as mentioned in my posts and they were just as bad.....I guess they are all faulty eh fanboy?

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Of course, one man's 'gimmick' is another man's 'useful feature'

true, but when you have to wade through 5 menus to enable that gimmick it becomes tiresome.....they really need to take apples approach to things, simplicity and elegance...afterall, we are there to watch content, not look at software revisions....



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I have the XL TV pack but don't watch anywhere near all the channels

then downgrade...

All of them; most of the time at least

[kop32]

Originally Posted by Zarf2007

ok,

So as an original adopter of Tivo I have decided to switch back to sky..I currently have 100Mb Broadband, Phone XL and Tivo XL with HD (but not the sports channels)....i have a tivo 1GB + HD box in bedroom.....

Like many people, I was excited when the prospect of Tivo technology was being resurrected by VM, I was an adopter of the original Tivo service in the UK and enjoyed its many features such as learning viewing habits etc.....

however, I can no longer tolerate the sluggish UI, lack of HD channels (it may have movies & sports etc but Sky is still way out in front) added to that the buggy iPlayer that crashes every time i use it (the PS3 version is way more stable) and in short I just don't think VM have delivered on Tivo....I hear rumours that they will 'unlock the 2nd processor core' but when? and also are many of tivo's features relevant in this day and age?

I am keeping the VM 100Mb broadband and Phone as at £45 per month I feel these are good value, however for £55 per month (discounted for six months) then £75 p.m for Sky World TV package (that actually includes the sport channels and many more in HD) + some decent 3D content (lets face it, VM does not cut it here) I feel its an improvement over my current £135 PM virgin package (no sports and less HD channels generally).....also it will be nice to go back to a responsive box......and for that I get a Sky+HD box and Sky HD multiroom box and free install.

I realise I am setting myself up for flak from VM fanboys like Carl Waring, but hey I can take it...

I really thought tivo would be the next best thing, and maybe in 5 years with numerous updates it will be, but at the moment it's big letdown....ok the Sky boxes may not be the latest tech, but content is king, and VM's mouthwash aint makin' it.

/end of rant

Plus of course you can now get Sky Anytime+ using your VM Broadband

[Zarf2007]

Originally Posted by kop32

Plus of course you can now get Sky Anytime+ using your VM Broadband

yes, and with the 100Mb package I'm on there should be no speed worries...i think this is the best of all worlds....

[kop32]

Originally Posted by Zarf2007

yes, and with the 100Mb package I'm on there should be no speed worries...i think this is the best of all worlds....

I have moved back to Sky (reluctantly) but must say that even with ADSL 2, 10 meg broadband Sky Anytime + works great,you just select a film etc and after it has downloaded 2% you can just start watching it like a normal program,so there are no speed issues.

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by jempalmer

Oh my goodness, what is he on?

If you think there's something wrong with what I posted then please feel free to tell me. You know, to discuss stuff, as that's what these forums are for.

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Originally Posted by Zarf2007

still if you're content with sticking with 2nd best, good luck...

Another personal dig at my opinion for no reason. Nice

learning viewing habits....personally, i know better than tivo what i like to watch...

Do any of your friends (Assuming you have any. See we can all do meaningless personal digs ) ever say "hey! here's a show you might like"?

And if they do, do you then say "thanks but I know better than you what I like to watch"? And if not, why not, if that's your attitude to any such 'Suggestions'?

it was niche when the original tivos were released...

And it hasn't changed. Just sits there quietly recommending programmes; which you are free to completely ignore if you want to.

but added to the sixteen menu deep feature list its boring....

Hyperbole aside, I know some people on various forums who really like that feature. Are they all wrong whilst you're right?

if I wanted to tinker with 1000's of features I'd build a linux HTPC such as MythTV.

Again with the hyperbole. Tivo doesn't have a dozen features; never mind "1000s". Also, I'm sure most VM customers wouldn't have a clue how to build a HTPC. But then why build one when you can rent one anyway?

Well I was just stating a fact..

No. You were parroting other people's opinions.

you are a fanboy

Not in any definition of the word I have ever read.

...in fact there are rumours that you are Bransons lovechild....

But it isnt HD!!!! Why would I buy a HD TV to watch SD!!!! I only watch SD when there is no HD equivalent...

Same here. But, to me, HD isn't as important as having a Tivo.

That maybe the case but you expect the little things to work, not constant 'doughnut' while searching my recordings or the annoying pause when it starts to record a program that you have decided to watch (and forgot to cancel the planner for).

The response time to channel hopping and other features is way too slow

Never experienced either of those.

and this should be VM's number one priority in rectifying, but clearly isnt...

Really? What's your proof?

I have looked at others as mentioned in my posts and they were just as bad.....I guess they are all faulty eh [insult removed]...?

Well I'm not the only one to mention in this very thread, that mine isn't particularly sluggish. Are we all wrong?

true, but when you have to wade through 5 menus to enable that gimmick it becomes tiresome...

It would bes yes, if you actually had to do that.

[nstokes]

Originally Posted by LexDiamond

Another member for the Sky section

And 1 less on VM forums

Originally Posted by muppetman11

I can take that challenge , my parents have TIVO so I've used this on numerous occasions , I have Sky+HD and have used the current EPG and am currently beta testing the new EPG. Moving around the menus on Sky is much quicker that said TIVO's interface is more richer and graphic laden so probably to be expected , that said I wouldn't say sluggish in my use however there seems a lot of screens to go through to achieve certain tasks.

I much prefer the Sky EPG and how responsive it is compared to when i had Tivo

Originally Posted by Chad

As they say Zarf the customer is always right. It doesn't matter what anyone else has to say about Tivo or SKY+HD, it's purely down to what you prefer. Enjoy SKY.

Everyone prefers different things so you are spot on

Originally Posted by Doz007

I made the same move a couple of months ago now. I loved TiVo even though the menus were a little slow but it was the lack if HD content, iOS apps and the price rise that were the final straw for me. Now I've got Sky, I'm loving all the HD channels, iPad apps and the new EPG.

Agreed. Also the news features that Sky will be releasing later in year is also better than what VM will do

[denphone]

Originally Posted by nstokes

And 1 less on VM forums



I much prefer the Sky EPG and how responsive it is compared to when i had Tivo



Everyone prefers different things so you are spot on



Agreed. Also the news features that Sky will be releasing later in year is also better than what VM will do

All a matter of opinion of course.

[nstokes]

Originally Posted by denphone

All a matter of opinion of course.

Of course

[Stephen]

Ok please stick to the topic at hand and less of the insults and personal digs!