Government withdraws funding for schools that teach Creationism - Page 2

Ignitionnet · 15-01-2012, 12:25

Good stuff, now let's get rid of all government funding for faith schools that don't have open admissions policies, remove their ability to teach as they please within RE rather than having to follow Ofsted rules and not open any free schools that even remotely hint at teaching creationism outside of RE and we're there.

**Damien** · 15-01-2012, 12:27

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

there will still be parents who will move there offspring to schools where this theory can be taught ,its not just going to go away .and it still goes on in the privacy of people homes .

As long as it's not the state paying for it then it's none of our business what they teach within their homes. Privately funded schools? That bothers me slightly because they will grow up with a misunderstanding of science but we can't ban it.

**Hugh** · 15-01-2012, 12:27

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And a lot more nuttier too. which unfortuantely is part of the problem.

You're confusing, imho, a vociferous minority with normal Americans (but, having a population four to five times the size of the UK's, that's quite a large number...

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papa smurf · 15-01-2012, 12:38

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Originally Posted by Damien

As long as it's not the state paying for it then it's none of our business what they teach within their homes. Privately funded schools? That bothers me slightly because they will grow up with a misunderstanding of science but we can't ban it.

but if mum and dad teach one thing at home and the school teaches a totally different view where does that leave the poor confused child who is stuck in the middle of this argument ?

**Hugh** · 15-01-2012, 12:43

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but if mum and dad teach one thing at home and the school teaches a totally different view where does that leave the poor confused child who is stuck in the middle of this argument ?

That could be said of a number of things (vegetarianism, communism, use of the Oxford comma, supporting Manchester United, etc etc).

papa smurf · 15-01-2012, 12:46

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That could be said of a number of things (vegetarianism, communism, use of the Oxford comma, supporting Manchester United, etc etc).

but we aren't discussing carrots are we. we are discussing creationism v/s evolution being taught as fact .

Gary L · 15-01-2012, 12:48

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That could be said of a number of things (vegetarianism, communism, use of the Oxford comma, supporting Manchester United, etc etc).

And the same could be said about racial abuse, women beating, and thieving.
taught one thing at school and another at home.

we'll take notice at what's being taught at home for some things. but not some others.

it's a no win situation.

**Maggy** · 15-01-2012, 12:49

Well I can't say I think this has been that much of a problem.How many publicly funded schools teach creationism as a science?

How many proposed free schools are there to beset up by Creationists?

I think this is a storm>teacup issue myself.

15-01-2012, 12:52

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

Well I can't say I think this has been that much of a problem.How many publicly funded schools teach creationism as a science?

How many proposed free schools are there to beset up by Creationists?

I think this is a storm>teacup issue myself.

True ,non of the schools i attended taught creationism and non of either of my sons did ,so if there are any then it is a very small number

papa smurf · 15-01-2012, 12:56

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True ,non of the schools i attended taught creationism and non of either of my sons did ,so if there are any then it is a very small number

from little acorns

danielf · 15-01-2012, 13:02

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

Well I can't say I think this has been that much of a problem.How many publicly funded schools teach creationism as a science?

How many proposed free schools are there to beset up by Creationists?

I think this is a storm>teacup issue myself.

The good thing about this is that it's not a storm at all

**Hugh** · 15-01-2012, 16:43

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Originally Posted by Gary L

And the same could be said about racial abuse, women beating, and thieving.
taught one thing at school and another at home.

we'll take notice at what's being taught at home for some things. but not some others.

it's a no win situation.

Only if you give equivalence to discussing religion and things that are criminal offences.

Gary L · 15-01-2012, 16:54

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Only if you give equivalence to discussing religion and things that are criminal offences.

Ok, let me change it so that they don't fall under criminal law.

Disliking skin colours other than your own, disliking women, and selling goods not as described on ebay.

still no good?

see. a no win situation with religion.

Chrysalis · 15-01-2012, 16:58

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Originally Posted by danielf

ON average, Americans are a lot more religious than Brits though.

Thats true, its amaxing how often 'god' is a part of american tv shows and movies. I think at least 80% of american stuff I watch has it.

**Hugh** · 15-01-2012, 17:30

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Ok, let me change it so that they don't fall under criminal law.

Disliking skin colours other than your own, disliking women, and selling goods not as described on ebay.

still no good?

see. a no win situation with religion.

You appear to be describing something you know well....

Let me try to decipher your meaning - are you saying that if someone states/tries to bring their children up in line with their own Church of England Christian beliefs, that it is akin to stating to one's children that it is ok to dislike people with different skin colour to one's own, to dislike women, and to defraud customers on eBay?