Superhub So exactly how good is modem mode? - Page 2

RB2004 · 09-12-2011, 20:29

Probably, as far as I can see now r30 is available with modem mode

There is no plausible case for keeping a vmng300

It has 100TBase Ethernet port and limited to 4 channels

Compared to 1000TBase Ethernet ports on the superhub and 8 channel compatibility

So straight off those 2 alone are 1 up over vmng300

So what if wireless and routing features are useless plug a router in it shove it in modem mode and it will behave just like the vmng300 did anyway

General Maximus · 09-12-2011, 20:38

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Originally Posted by RB2004

It has 100TBase Ethernet port and limited to 4 channels

The VMNG300 has got a gigabit port otherwise it wouldn't be able to do 200mbits

RB2004 · 09-12-2011, 20:51

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Originally Posted by General Maximus

The VMNG300 has got a gigabit port otherwise it wouldn't be able to do 200mbits

If it does, fair dos my mistake and im wrong on that one and stand corrected.

BUT

it is still down on the channels.

and while it is no problem currently.. it will be later on.. at least one area is already using 5 channels.... so it is imminent that more channels will be used than the VMNG300 can support.

So theres no reason why a VMNG300 should be preferred over a superhub NOW R30 is released.

Prior to R30 yes I agree all the way VMNG300.. but not now.

you got lower speeds on the superhub, but you never confirmned whether you tried it in modem mode?

As I can get 97mbit fine on the superhub.. so its clearly capable.

roughbeast · 09-12-2011, 20:52

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Originally Posted by General Maximus

The VMNG300 has got a gigabit port otherwise it wouldn't be able to do 200mbits

All true. It shows up when directly connected to your PC as a gigabit piece of kit.

They didn't use the VMNG300 for the 200Mb trials, only because it couldn't handle the 8 channels required. The techie told me it could handle 400Mb too, but not using 8 bonded channels.

jb66 · 09-12-2011, 20:53

i dont need 8 downstream channels, 4 is more than enough

Skie · 09-12-2011, 20:55

Channel bonding is just a way to spread the load over the network, its not the essential component to high speeds. It just helps. So yeah, the VMNG300 is a capable little bugger, but with VM's network being so heavily utilized they need to spread that load which is why the Superhub is it's replacement.

I do remember seeing for myself that the SH had a higher average latency than the VMNG300. I wonder if modem mode has changed that with the routing functions being disabled?

RB2004 · 09-12-2011, 21:01

probably has, it was the routing functions that have always been useless on it... and the wifi.

lol.. but I found using some 9 dB aerials on it fixes the wifi range problem.

General Maximus · 09-12-2011, 21:16

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Originally Posted by RB2004

As I can get 97mbit fine on the superhub.. so its clearly capable.

it might be capable but for whatever reason I wasn't getting it, but as soon as I reconnect a VMNG300 I do. I don't what the difference is and why it happened but that is why I wanted it back and why i always want to keep it. It has always been 100% and never let me down

Tuvoc · 11-12-2011, 11:27

I've been wondering the same thing. I have a beautifully reliable 20Mb service currently, and have been waiting for the superhub issues to be sorted before upgrading to 30Mb or 50Mb. Sounds like modem mode with my existing router will be OK now. Are the superhubs delivered now with R30 installed ?

roughbeast · 11-12-2011, 12:05

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Originally Posted by Skie

I do remember seeing for myself that the SH had a higher average latency than the VMNG300. I wonder if modem mode has changed that with the routing functions being disabled?

I don't know if modem mode has changed that or not. Anecdotal eveidence only; all I can say is my my shub is looking great in modem-only mode. It looks better than VMNG300 did on 50Mb.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35342929-post1.html

Thinking back my typical ping at speedtest.net was 35ms+ with the VMNG300. Typically now it is -32ms.

gmudos · 11-12-2011, 12:43

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Originally Posted by Tuvoc

I've been wondering the same thing. I have a beautifully reliable 20Mb service currently, and have been waiting for the superhub issues to be sorted before upgrading to 30Mb or 50Mb. Sounds like modem mode with my existing router will be OK now. Are the superhubs delivered now with R30 installed ?

I recieved a new superhub on Friday. If you let me know where to look, I'll let you know.

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Originally Posted by gmudos

I recieved a new superhub on Friday. If you let me know where to look, I'll let you know.

Is this what you're looking for:

Information
Standard Specification Compliant EU DOCSIS 3.0
Hardware Version 2.00
Software Version V5.5.2R30

Tuvoc · 11-12-2011, 13:28

Software Version V5.5.2R30

That suggests R30, yes :-)

General Maximus · 11-12-2011, 18:38

it doesn't get shipped with R30, I think it is R19, and when it gets activated on the network it automatically downloads the latest firmware

Tuvoc · 11-12-2011, 18:59

OK, thanks

roughbeast · 11-12-2011, 20:22

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Originally Posted by General Maximus

it doesn't get shipped with R30, I think it is R19, and when it gets activated on the network it automatically downloads the latest firmware

If not you can always reboot it and that will prompt it to download new firmware.

Instructions are pretty good here: http://help.virginmedia.com/system/s...CUSTOMER_TYPE=