Ban smoking in cars, says British Medical Association

Why dont the BMA keep their noses out of things that dont concern them - their purpose in life isnt to make laws.

(And no, I dont smoke).

[mertle]

Originally Posted by denphone

On the point of air conditioning l am not sure that would make much difference as l have just watched the news and they pointed out even with your window pulled down there were still significent after effects from the driver or passenger smoking.

thanks for that so not much relief.

The other though get air purifier heaven fresh do one which can operate in cars. That would improve air quality so anybody concerned young in back should consider purchasing one.

Though still would be concerned driving safety aspect at least non smokers would have improved air quality.

http://www.heavenfresh.co.uk/Ionic-A...urifier-HF-200

Comes with cigerette adapter in the box ideally placed under the passenger front seat.

Got one in most rooms due to health they really improved my health.

[Zee]

This is going too far, although im not a smoker myself, how long until they say no smoking in your own home, or in certain streets, or in certain towns

[Kymmy]

Smoking is already dealt with on driving safety by the current laws (same as eating/drinking and doing anything esle whilst driving) and can be dealt with via careless driving or not being in proper control of their vehicle offences.

As far as health then we should ban smoking in a private vehicle where there is a passenger who is incapable of giving legal consent (I.E anyone under the age of 16)

As for a blanket ban then that's not right.. If a smoker wants to slowly kill themselves then that's upto them.. but their rights to smoke should never impact on another persons health unless the person can accept that fact

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

Smoking is already dealt with on driving safety by the current laws (same as eating/drinking and doing anything esle whilst driving) and can be dealt with via careless driving or not being in proper control of their vehicle offences.

In fairness, so can Mobile phone use, but that didn't stop the government banning Mobile phone use by drivers.

As far as health then we should ban smoking in a private vehicle where there is a passenger who is incapable of giving legal consent (I.E anyone under the age of 16)

The problem there is it's difficult to enforce. Even assuming the Police look in a car and see someone smoking with a passenger, they'd have to stop them and unless the passenger looked really young or really old, they'd need to get proof of age from the passenger.

As for a blanket ban then that's not right.. If a smoker wants to slowly kill themselves then that's upto them.. but their rights to smoke should never impact on another persons health unless the person can accept that fact

Agreed. While it may sometimes come across that I am vehemently pro smoking when I post in these threads, I am not. I am pro choice. I believe that people should have the right to smoke, and that rather than just banning it, companies should provide areas where people can smoke. Even that's not a particularly pro smoker statement. Without being given somewhere to smoke, smokers tend to congregate around the entrances and exits to buildings. This means that things can get a little unpleasant for those wanting to enter or exit the building..

I also believe that those who wish to smoke (and I don't smoke) should ask before they do so. In their defence, my friends and family always do.

[Gary L]

As has been said it's a private vehicle, and the ban is wanted because of the dangers to the young.
so either police it as it is. stop a car with young passengers and the driver or 'anyone' is smoking. (which is strange in itself because you'd have to be prosecuted as a smoking passenger)
or leave well alone and let the adults take some responsibility. or ban smoking completely because you are letting the children down by letting their mum and dad smoke around them at home.

you make me sick. pretending you care about the poor children when you don't. if you did you would want smoking banned everywhere where a child can be affected.

and you'd want all vehicles banned off the roads because they can kill people. you'd want alcohol banned because that causes misery. don't forget Xbox, and Playstation games. no it's not ok for a child to have to listen to the foul language. and no it's not ok to go around shooting people and running them over with the car you just stole off somebody.

you make me sick.

you don't care about the children at all do you? you're just making some noise so you can feel superior about yourself and keep yourself in a job!

stupid nosey do gooders!!

[Taf]

I could never smoke in a car without a window open... and that draws the smoke out almost immediately. I didn't smoke at all with our babies/toddlers/scrawny teenagers in our car, ditto do not smoke in our home at anytime, or other homes where anyone under adulthood was present, even if their parents were already smoking.

But that is my decision, it should not be legislated, but the baying hounds of the ANTI brigade have tasted blood with the first part of the smoking ban, and they won't give up now.

The bans are soon to be extended to places of education and medicine AFAIK (and their grounds), then I suppose it'll be parks and beer gardens, followed by anywhere near anyone that isn't smoking such as outside but near doors and windows.

Originally Posted by Paul M

Why dont the BMA keep their noses out of things that dont concern them - their purpose in life isnt to make laws.

(And no, I dont smoke).

Damned nanny state.

And I'm not a smoker either, not even an ex one.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Paul M

Why dont the BMA keep their noses out of things that dont concern them - their purpose in life isnt to make laws.

(And no, I dont smoke).

I have to agree with you there

I don't smoke ether

[devilincarnate]

Just need to listen to this from 1.10 to 1.22 and he hit the nail on the head of what will happen. Just disregard the rest?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHIT2...eature=related - Denis Leary Smoke

[murfitUK]

Here is my solution if ever they ban smoking in cars with children in it. If I need a fag I shall pull over and tell the kids to go stand on the pavement until I'm finished.

If this is about preventing dangerous driving (and they can't even enforce the "no mobile phone" ban) then I can't think of anything more dangerous than driving with a couple of screaming kids in the back. Therefore - ban driving if there are children in the car.

Also, sometimes a passenger will talk to me thus causing a distraction. The solution is to ban passengers. And no dogs allowed in the car in case it jumps up and startles the driver.

I'm sure there are lots of things that contribute to bad driving but instead of banning specific things there should be more enforcement of the existing laws about driving without due care and attention (whatever the cause).

[devilincarnate]

Originally Posted by murfitUK

Here is my solution if ever they ban smoking in cars with children in it. If I need a fag I shall pull over and tell the kids to go stand on the pavement until I'm finished.

If this is about preventing dangerous driving (and they can't even enforce the "no mobile phone" ban) then I can't think of anything more dangerous than driving with a couple of screaming kids in the back. Therefore - ban driving if there are children in the car.

Also, sometimes a passenger will talk to me thus causing a distraction. The solution is to ban passengers. And no dogs allowed in the car in case it jumps up and startles the driver.

I'm sure there are lots of things that contribute to bad driving but instead of banning specific things there should be more enforcement of the existing laws about driving without due care and attention (whatever the cause).

I would agree or you could just ban driving altogether

I do smoke and have kids (my parents smoked and it never did me any harm)

From the link in the OP.

A spokesman for the Department of Health in England said: "We do not believe that legislation is the most effective way to encourage people to change their behaviour."
He said instead a marketing campaign would be launched in the spring which would focus on the dangers of smoking in the home and car.

So it's not happening.

[Zee]

Even if they did make smoking illegal in the home, they would not be able to enforce it.

Nanny state at it's finest.

Yes, I smoke.