Serious Crime Prevention Orders ..

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Derek

Well they won't. It just makes it easier for them to get convicted of breaking the order than of drug dealing. Or makes them go more hands on with the dealing rather than directing others.

In my obvious ignorance to these types of matters, that's what I was thinking - it'll just make them try harder (or use different methods) to avoid capture/detection.

[Will21st]

Originally Posted by Russ

In my obvious ignorance to these types of matters, that's what I was thinking - it'll just make them try harder (or use different methods) to avoid capture/detection.

There's a very simple way to prevent them and others from drug dealing full stop... regulated,taxed and controlled sales at licensed shops.

Originally Posted by Will21st

There's a very simple way to prevent them and others from drug dealing full stop... regulated,taxed and controlled sales at licensed shops.

so that will be regulated ,taxed and controlled mayhem then .These orders aren't just for drug dealers but for any serious crime and are not designed to prevent the original crime just make it harder to return to crime on release and as Russ has said earlier anyone prepared to break laws that put that person in the serious criminal bracket will laugh at such measures, but as Derek said these just make it easier to put them back in jail

[Will21st]

Originally Posted by martyh

so that will be regulated ,taxed and controlled mayhem then .These orders aren't just for drug dealers but for any serious crime and are not designed to prevent the original crime just make it harder to return to crime on release and as Russ has said earlier anyone prepared to break laws that put that person in the serious criminal bracket will laugh at such measures, but as Derek said these just make it easier to put them back in jail

Yep,just like all hell broke lose when the US ended alcohol prohibition... oh,hang on
The reason drug 'crime' is largely possible is due to prohibtion,and resulting from that is a lack of control over sales and distribution.
Cue underground dealers to meet the demand.It's all simple economics,really.But I'm sure this new,powerful crime-fighting tool will have Britain drug free in no time at all.... just like all the others before it.

Originally Posted by Will21st

Yep,just like all hell broke lose when the US ended alcohol prohibition... oh,hang on
The reason drug 'crime' is largely possible is due to prohibtion,and resulting from that is a lack of control over sales and distribution.
Cue underground dealers to meet the demand.It's all simple economics,really.But I'm sure this new,powerful crime-fighting tool will have Britain drug free in no time at all.... just like all the others before it.

Sorry Will i'm not going to get drawn into a discussion on the merits of legalising drugs 'cos its however if you wish to start a thread on the subject i will be happy to tell you how wrong you are

[Will21st]

Originally Posted by martyh

Sorry Will i'm not going to get drawn into a discussion on the merits of legalising drugs 'cos its however if you wish to start a thread on the subject i will be happy to tell you how wrong you are

Haha,that's a good one Martyh

Of course it's totally on topic and a major reason behind much crime in this country.However I appreciate your lack of knowledge on the subject and shall give you sufficient time to catch up!

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Will21st

Of course it's totally on topic and a major reason behind much crime in this country.

The Admins and Mods will decide what is and isn't on-topic and this one has decided that although it's a worthy of a discussion, the legalisation (or not) of drugs would be off-topic here.

[Will21st]

Originally Posted by Russ

The Admins and Mods will decide what is and isn't on-topic and this one has decided that although it's a worthy of a discussion, the legalisation (or not) of drugs would be off-topic here.

Hmmm,so where Martyhs telling off for deciding what's off-topic?

[Russ]

You just quoted it

[danielf]

I think the argument is that this thread is for discussion of Serious Crime Prevention Orders, which can be handed out for but aren't limited to drugs offences. As such, legalisation of drugs is off-topic in this thread.

As stated, anyone wishing to start a thread on legalisation is free to do so?

[Will21st]

Originally Posted by Russ

You just quoted it

Oh,how good of me