50M Should i worry? - Page 2

Ignitionnet · 27-09-2011, 18:18

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Originally Posted by crazyronnie

Can't patent it but you sure can trade mark it.

I'll give that a pop. I'm sure people will help themselves to it anyway but couldn't hurt

Chrysalis · 27-09-2011, 18:31

The prices would be exactly the same ignition.

Although broadband might be cheaper if there was no usenet/p2p.

Ignitionnet · 27-09-2011, 19:01

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

The prices would be exactly the same ignition.

Although broadband might be cheaper if there was no usenet/p2p.

The contrapositive could equally be true, the same volumes of scale you ignore as far as sales of content go conceivably apply to broadband in much the same way.

AndyCalling · 28-09-2011, 23:04

With regards to this debate about 'unlimited', I don't think the term should be used in advertising because we are not paying for an unlimited service. Technically. We are paying for an unmetered service, as I do with my water supply. The amount of bandwidth available is a communal resource and with 50meg we can pretty much use it for normal use type purposes without concern, as I do with water. If I left all my taps on all day, which may compromise the resource for my neighbours, I would expect a letter telling me to wind my neck in. Same with broadband.

That said, it is the responsibility of the company to ensure enough supply to cover normal use without problem (occasional breakdowns not withstanding). Once Youview gets started next year, which I am hanging out for, all broadband suppliers are going to have to change their definitions of normal usage. Combined with the new Onlive service for gaming, the internet landscape in the UK is about to evolve bandwidth wise. I hope and expect that VM is getting the infrastructure in place to cope or there will be a serious butting of heads with the community as a whole. In that one, VM will lose.

Chrysalis · 29-09-2011, 07:51

Bang on regarding unmetered.

bigsinky · 29-09-2011, 16:34

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

The remark was aimed at you, so the idea was that you resemble it.

Copying stuff without paying is hardly something to be proud of and what you pay Virgin each month is absolutely nothing to do with it

I resemble the part of the people who use Amazon or Play to get Blu Rays, I do occasionally wonder what they'd cost if it weren't for people helping themselves, but then I like a quality original in an original case with special features intact, and knowing I've rewarded the people who invested the money and time in making the product gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling.

I should patent the term 'digital chav' - I quite like it, and it's very appropriate

it's all Linux distros :nods:

Ignitionnet · 29-09-2011, 16:36

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Originally Posted by bigsinky

it's all Linux distros :nods:

Indeed. Bit odd being happy to pay for a souped up Impreza but not wanting to pay for 24 'Operating Systems' in 20 days and a mere 18 this month but to each their own.

crazyronnie · 29-09-2011, 16:49

Look everybody uses their internet connection in different ways. If someone wants to download movies without paying for it or wanna rent movies online for example xbox live marketplace or the PS3 equivalent let them. Lets keep this thread to the point.

Ignitionnet · 29-09-2011, 19:02

That was sorted a while ago, I believe the recommendation was to just get on with it and if VM want to complain they can get on with it.

bigsinky · 30-09-2011, 19:40

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Indeed. Bit odd being happy to pay for a souped up Impreza but not wanting to pay for 24 'Operating Systems' in 20 days and a mere 18 this month but to each their own.

what can isay. i like LINUX. and it's a modified Impreza not souped up

Ignitionnet · 30-09-2011, 19:53

Indeed though evidently not paying for it like most of the rest of us do, which is just as well given it wouldn't be getting made if not for us fools who pay for it for you

Sosages you've gone awfully quiet - did you start the upload and get disconnected?

SOSAGES · 30-09-2011, 21:53

got worried :0
only times i will use it a lot is for work - i sometimes have to move a lot of files around. This happens 1-2 a year but due to the size of stuff it can take some days.
Just hate waiting until 9 to do anything.
Thing is i asked the guys at VM what to do and they said there isnt a limit they can say is safe it depends what everyone else is doing /cry

vmfriend · 30-09-2011, 23:12

Not sure I agree with the water analogy, my water is metered and if I left my taps on all day my 'flow' wouldn't be restricted. I would just get billed for what I used. I wouldn't get cut off either.

I suspect downloading habits would change if people were charged by the gb.

I think it's a sad indictment of society when people get lambasted for pointing out that downloading movies by torrents etc etc is illegal.

Chrysalis · 01-10-2011, 07:22

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Originally Posted by vmfriend

Not sure I agree with the water analogy, my water is metered and if I left my taps on all day my 'flow' wouldn't be restricted. I would just get billed for what I used. I wouldn't get cut off either.

I suspect downloading habits would change if people were charged by the gb.

I think it's a sad indictment of society when people get lambasted for pointing out that downloading movies by torrents etc etc is illegal.

of course they would change but that would be a huge backwards step.

It seems people can only think extremes either unlimited or charge per gig.

What about a viable solution such as a monthly usage cap eg. 250 gig month.

When I use 3G the experience is I have to think twice about doing things like watching youtube videos because on the daily gig allowance one video will typically chew a 3rd of that up easy. Quite often I havent restrained myself and paid silly money, but luckily I am not on 3G often its just when I am not at home.

vmfriend · 01-10-2011, 07:57

I am not advocating one option (unlimited) over the other (per gb) I was just using it as an example.

There appears to be a status quo at present where illegal downloaders are tolerated to a degree and the average Joe (in general) can use the Internet as they would reasonably expect. (I'll let you make your own mind up as to what reasonable is)

Personally I don't know if the current system works, I can only say that I personally am happy with the service, however like most people I would want any issues resolving, such as my service being impacted by others downloading torrents etc 24/7