TiVo Just how bad is the EPG at the moment? - Page 2

StuN · 31-08-2011, 11:05

I hear there's a major update to TiVo coming in October. Hopefully this will address the majority of issues

denphone · 31-08-2011, 11:16

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Originally Posted by StuN

I hear there's a major update to TiVo coming in October. Hopefully this will address the majority of issues

Thats good news and l hope the update entails quite a few added options for us as well.

jagsman · 31-08-2011, 13:18

I have seen TIVO not record several things it should because of the EPG, also seen about 7 or 8 occasions when the EPG data was incorrect ie. wrong episode. I have also seen a few instances of series i have recorded where a couple of the episodes only have the "Generic" data for the series, rather than have the episode specific details.

All of these problems have still not convinced me that getting TIVO was a bad idea, but I do think it is a bigger problem than anyone actually believes. The problems that I have highlighted have happened on the channels that I watch, but that only accounts for about 25% of the channels we get, so if these same problems occur on the other 75%, then as a whole, it is totally unacceptable.

arcimedes · 31-08-2011, 15:58

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Originally Posted by jagsman

I have seen TIVO not record several things it should because of the EPG, also seen about 7 or 8 occasions when the EPG data was incorrect ie. wrong episode. I have also seen a few instances of series i have recorded where a couple of the episodes only have the "Generic" data for the series, rather than have the episode specific details.

It is incomprehensible why HD and SD channels should have different information for the same show after all only the channel type changes

What do we pay Â£3 a month for?

I notice that when the epg download was cocked totally up they did manage eventually to reload with a correct version.

The advantages still out weigh the problems for me though its starting to look the only benefits are the 1TB disc and suggestions and the 3 tuners.

VM please get your act together.

denphone · 31-08-2011, 16:05

We have to remember we are still in the infancy of the tivo on Virgin and as such we have to remember that there will be some issues and bugs that given time will l suspect be sorted out and then everyone will be happy.

arcimedes · 31-08-2011, 16:13

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Originally Posted by denphone

We have to remember we are still in the infancy of the tivo on Virgin and as such we have to remember that there will be some issues and bugs that given time will l suspect be sorted out and then everyone will be happy.

Ignoring the obvious that people will then find something else to complain about, why were so many screens still in SD at the launch? I wouldnt mind the SD if the picture was still shown.

Still come October everything will then be perfect, but I suppose it does make you forget that most channels are contain mostly rubbish

muppetman11 · 31-08-2011, 16:23

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Originally Posted by denphone

We have to remember we are still in the infancy of the tivo on Virgin and as such we have to remember that there will be some issues and bugs that given time will l suspect be sorted out and then everyone will be happy.

Yes I believe they have only scratched the surface.

denphone · 31-08-2011, 16:27

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

Yes I believe they have only.scratched the surface.

A wonderfully apt comment master.

HDFootyMan · 31-08-2011, 21:04

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Originally Posted by denphone

We have to remember we are still in the infancy of the tivo on Virgin and as such we have to remember that there will be some issues and bugs that given time will l suspect be sorted out and then everyone will be happy.

Its nothing whatsoever to do with bugs. Its incorrect data from Tribune.

You could write a masterpiece of a computer programme - but if its relying on accurate data to work properly, and that data is not accurate, guess what? You're screwed and so is your computer programme.

So, you tell TiVO to record new episodes only. Good feature. Good programming. But that's relying on the data being accurate. In the case of Lost Girl, every episode has been tagged as new and upcoming episodes have no metadata (or that was the case earlier this week). Until that's changed, its going to record every episode and because there's no metadata, TiVo's "don't record within 28 days" rule will be ignored because it doesn't know what episode of Lost Girl its going to record.

That October code-drop won't solve a thing as far as the EPG issues are concerned. Sure, it may fix bugs and add features, but guess what? Those bug fixes and new features will rely on the EPG data being accurate (regardless of a Dynamic EPG or not).

zantarous · 31-08-2011, 22:43

The EPG is fine but as mentioned the metadata on some series has been abysmal. I have just cleared out my Falling Skies folder as it had 13 episodes that have been recorded but only 9 have been broadcast. It had the episode called Grace recorded five times four times as Grace and once as just Falling skies.

Episode two does not have a season or episode number assigned to it and episode 3 is marked as episode 2. At least it didn't miss an episode.

Another one I had a issue was match of the Day on Saturday, I set this remotely which means both of of my boxes record it. But on the Saturday just gone the main box didn't record it but was recording nothing else at the time and the one in the bedroom did. At least it records MOTD2 automatically as I keep forgetting to set the series link for it.

And the new South Park data was abysmal I was getting about 20 episodes a week recorded. It is a bit worrying that the metadata is so bad on new series.

Having said all that I still love my Tivo and find it far better then the V+. The Falling Skies falls on a busy Tuesday night where I have Eureka, Smallville and Falling Skies all at the same time. Which is fine on nights where we are not watching TV but when we do i have been cancelling the Falling skies recording and it has worked fine recording another showing latter in the week.

scotmac · 31-08-2011, 23:02

@ zantarous you`ve missed an episode or deleted 1 to many as ep9 and 10 were aired last night

jtaylor06 · 31-08-2011, 23:14

I wonder if other providers that use Tribune suffer the same issues in terms of wrong data.
According to, http://news.cnet.com/TiVo-expands-Tr...3-5174057.html

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Other Tribune clients include Time Warner Cable, Cablevision, The New York Times, USA Today and Microsoft.

Read more: http://news.cnet.com/TiVo-expands-Tr...#ixzz1WdxFc0hG

arcimedes · 31-08-2011, 23:38

"TiVo will continue to receive show times and description information for its North American and the U.K. markets, but it will also have access to enhanced listings data that enable more frequent show time updates."

Does that mean we might get a more dynamic epg?

jtaylor06 · 31-08-2011, 23:40

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Originally Posted by arcimedes

"TiVo will continue to receive show times and description information for its North American and the U.K. markets, but it will also have access to enhanced listings data that enable more frequent show time updates."

Does that mean we might get a more dynamic epg?

Actually must have skimmed past that part.
So it sounds like it is possible then.

zantarous · 31-08-2011, 23:46

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Originally Posted by scotmac

@ zantarous you`ve missed an episode or deleted 1 to many as ep9 and 10 were aired last night

I think I must have been recording something else when the ep 10 was on as it set to record on Fri night.

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Might also not have had a free tuner as all three 9 pm recordings had 5 mins of padding each at the end.