TiVo : Is Tivo actually ready for VMs market?

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by mark1234

Windows Media Centre does this wonderfully. If there are clashes then it will look across all channels to find another showing that it will then schedule to record. If it cannot find another showing within the the current guide data (it has a fortnights worth) then it remembers what show(s) it cannot record and if they are repeated in the future then they get scheduled to record.

Now, that's good. Tivo should do that.

[clinteastman]

Originally Posted by mark1234

Windows Media Centre does this wonderfully. If there are clashes then it will look across all channels to find another showing that it will then schedule to record. If it cannot find another showing within the the current guide data (it has a fortnights worth) then it remembers what show(s) it cannot record and if they are repeated in the future then they get scheduled to record.

Now don't get me wrong I love my TiVo but I wish VM went with Windows Media Centre Embedded...

[toady]

I don't think that TIVO is ready for the general VM customer, there are too many issues at the moment

Its OK for us techie types who visit the forum and get responses from VM people and work arounds

It depends on how quickly VM can update the software and remove the problems

Quicker updates to resolve bugs one at a time might be better than waiting ages for a huge update and giving the impression that nothings being done about the problems

[denphone]

l think it is ready and as with any new box there will also be litle bugs and issues.

[DaBoz]

If anyone else in my family took TiVo, they would have struggled and possibly given it back. Only by ploughing the forums and nagging VM staff over at VM support forum did I get workarounds or indication of upcoming fixes. Rest of family would never go to Internet for advice on STB.

Can't see my other relatives working it out either. Its easy to say "create a wishlist with optional keywords", "change series link priorities", "check recording hiccups and upcoming shows to resolve conflicts", but not everyone will find that easy to deal with or even get in the right headspace to tackle the problems.

I'm liking TiVo more and more and glad I didn't send it back, but it's not yet a noddy STB.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by DaBoz

If anyone else in my family took TiVo, they would have struggled and possibly given it back. Only by ploughing the forums and nagging VM staff over at VM support forum did I get workarounds or indication of upcoming fixes. Rest of family would never go to Internet for advice on STB.

Can't see my other relatives working it out either. Its easy to say "create a wishlist with optional keywords", "change series link priorities", "check recording hiccups and upcoming shows to resolve conflicts", but not everyone will find that easy to deal with or even get in the right headspace to tackle the problems.

I'm liking TiVo more and more and glad I didn't send it back, but it's not yet a noddy STB.

Glad you are gradually getting used to it, you just have to persevere.

[devilincarnate]

Originally Posted by DaBoz

If anyone else in my family took TiVo, they would have struggled and possibly given it back. Only by ploughing the forums and nagging VM staff over at VM support forum did I get workarounds or indication of upcoming fixes. Rest of family would never go to Internet for advice on STB.

You would be a very good advocate to show them how to use the box

Originally Posted by DaBoz

Can't see my other relatives working it out either. Its easy to say "create a wishlist with optional keywords", "change series link priorities", "check recording hiccups and upcoming shows to resolve conflicts", but not everyone will find that easy to deal with or even get in the right headspace to tackle the problems.

As I have said above

Originally Posted by DaBoz

I'm liking TiVo more and more and glad I didn't send it back, but it's not yet a noddy STB.

Why would you not like to go back to the V+

Originally Posted by joff81

..Most of us can tell even at this early stage VM TiVo is going to be massive and a unique product offering that nobody out there can come close to.

New Tivo might be leaps and bounds ahead of V+, might even be the best 'cable' PVR for long time & i am looking forward to it - but there's plenty comes more than close - in fact only couple posts down:

Originally Posted by mark1234

Windows Media Centre does this wonderfully. If there are clashes then it will look across all channels to find another showing that it will then schedule to record. If it cannot find another showing within the the current guide data (it has a fortnights worth) then it remembers what show(s) it cannot record and if they are repeated in the future then they get scheduled to record.

Originally Posted by clinteastman

Now don't get me wrong I love my TiVo but I wish VM went with Windows Media Centre Embedded...

Would it still be Tivo if it's got WMC engine in it?

[Pbryanw]

Originally Posted by JethroUK

Would it still be Tivo if it's got WMC engine in it?

And is Windows Media Centre better then when I last used it with XP Media Centre Edition? I bought the MCE remote, a big hard-drive for films, installed My Movies, but the reality never lived up to my expectations (and it seemed to crash a lot).

I wouldn't swap TiVo for MCE (although MCE might have improved since I last used it). Also one of TiVo's features I like the most - suggestions - seems to be unique to TiVo. I love the fact that I don't have to set up lots of recordings, just teach it my likes/dislikes and it'll record plenty of programs to watch, without too much effort on my part. It's strange that more set-top boxes haven't copied this feature

[alwaysabear]

Originally Posted by Pbryanw

And is Windows Media Centre better then when I last used it with XP Media Centre Edition? I bought the MCE remote, a big hard-drive for films, installed My Movies, but the reality never lived up to my expectations (and it seemed to crash a lot).

I wouldn't swap MCE for TiVo (although MCE might have improved since I last used it). Also one of TiVo's features I like the most - suggestions - seems to be unique to TiVo. I love the fact that I don't have to set up lots of recordings, just teach it my likes/dislikes and it'll record plenty of programs to watch, without too much effort on my part. It's strange that more set-top boxes haven't copied this feature

Patents .

[Pbryanw]

Originally Posted by alwaysabear

Patents .

Ah, that explains it . And I can see now that if you had such a great feature, that made your set-top box unique, then you would strongly patent it. Makes me glad this tech has found its way to the UK via Virgin.

[hedgie]

Originally Posted by DaBoz

I'm liking TiVo more and more and glad I didn't send it back, but it's not yet a noddy STB.

I don't think it was ever intended to be a "noddy" STB, In principle the Thumb function should be simple, but inevitably it is complex platform now if Apple did the user interface.....................

[clinteastman]

Originally Posted by JethroUK

Would it still be Tivo if it's got WMC engine in it?

No it would be a WMC box.

Originally Posted by Pbryanw

And is Windows Media Centre better then when I last used it with XP Media Centre Edition? I bought the MCE remote, a big hard-drive for films, installed My Movies, but the reality never lived up to my expectations (and it seemed to crash a lot).

I wouldn't swap TiVo for MCE (although MCE might have improved since I last used it). Also one of TiVo's features I like the most - suggestions - seems to be unique to TiVo. I love the fact that I don't have to set up lots of recordings, just teach it my likes/dislikes and it'll record plenty of programs to watch, without too much effort on my part. It's strange that more set-top boxes haven't copied this feature

You do realise the MCE XP is 10 years old right?

[toady]

Originally Posted by hedgie

I don't think it was ever intended to be a "noddy" STB, In principle the Thumb function should be simple, but inevitably it is complex platform now if Apple did the user interface.....................

If Apple did the interface, you would only be able to watch what Apple approves of and any recordings would have to obtained by the iTunes store

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by toady

If Apple did the interface, you would only be able to watch what Apple approves of and any recordings would have to obtained by the iTunes store

And flash wouldnt work