TiVo : Richard Branson believes TiVo is a "weapon" against Sky

[OLDGOLD]

I don't think VM will ever compete with Sky content-wise, not on a linear channel basis anyway. On-demand is the key. For TiVo to be a real weapon against Sky, the on-demand needs to be really beefed up from what we currently have, especially HD on-demand.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by OLDGOLD

I don't think VM will ever compete with Sky content-wise, not on a linear channel basis anyway. On-demand is the key. For TiVo to be a real weapon against Sky, the on-demand needs to be really beefed up from what we currently have, especially HD on-demand.

Im looking forward to the day when all the terrestrial channels catchup content is available in HD.

[OLDGOLD]

I'm looking forward to the day when all Sky's HD channels are available in catchup... Or is that a bit too much to wish for?

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by OLDGOLD

I'm looking forward to the day when all Sky's HD channels are available in catchup... Or is that a bit too much to wish for?

LOL I can't see that happening LOL

[jtaylor06]

Anyone thinking Tivo vs Sky+HD on team deathmatch?

[devilincarnate]

Originally Posted by jtaylor06

Anyone thinking Tivo vs Sky+HD on team deathmatch?

It would be good at the moment but it would be a bit one sided, But when VM/TIVO get rolled out to the rest of the country i would then say it would be a no contest?

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by OLDGOLD

I don't think VM will ever compete with Sky content-wise, not on a linear channel basis anyway. On-demand is the key. For TiVo to be a real weapon against Sky, the on-demand needs to be really beefed up from what we currently have, especially HD on-demand.

But it doesn't really matter whether you access your programmes through linear channels, video on demand or streamed video. Content is the key, and if the new TIVO boxes enable us to watch programmes that Sky are showing but from a different source (eg Blockbuster), who cares that we don't have certain Sky channels?

It is only a matter of time before Virgin Media do deals with such companies and we have a huge choice of movies, box sets, etc.

Sport might be more of a problem, though, unless there are providers out there who can stream sporting events that Sky have exclusive TV rights to in this country and this can be accessed legally.

It is only if VM can cross this hurdle and provide us with a huge choice via internet streaming, overcoming the Sky TV exclusivity issues, that we will see Sky customers coming over to VM in droves.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

But it doesn't really matter whether you access your programmes through linear channels, video on demand or streamed video. Content is the key, and if the new TIVO boxes enable us to watch programmes that Sky are showing but from a different source (eg Blockbuster), who cares that we don't have certain Sky channels?

It is only a matter of time before Virgin Media do deals with such companies and we have a huge choice of movies, box sets, etc.

Sport might be more of a problem, though, unless there are providers out there who can stream sporting events that Sky have exclusive TV rights to in this country and this can be accessed legally.

It is only if VM can cross this hurdle and provide us with a huge choice via internet streaming, overcoming the Sky TV exclusivity issues, that we will see Sky customers coming over to VM in droves.

HI OLD BOY I agree with your post internet streaming will be the way forward the fact the new TiVo box has a 10MB internet connection tells me that VM are thinking that way as well, in order though to do deals with companies especially for first run films the regulator may have to investigate the way sky buy up VOD rights they do not always use so others ie virgin media cannot do deals but you are correct internet streaming of content is the way its going and if vm can get the content so much the better.

As far as sport is concerned that in my view is not so much of a problem as vm have access to sky sports 1,2,3 and 4 and shortly will have the Red Button feature which means in reality there will be very little sporting events if any that are sky exclusive for vm customers.

Nice to see your post on here i read your postings on D/S.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by richard1960

HI OLD BOY I agree with your post internet streaming will be the way forward the fact the new TiVo box has a 10MB internet connection tells me that VM are thinking that way as well, in order though to do deals with companies especially for first run films the regulator may have to investigate the way sky buy up VOD rights they do not always use so others ie virgin media cannot do deals but you are correct internet streaming of content is the way its going and if vm can get the content so much the better.

As far as sport is concerned that in my view is not so much of a problem as vm have access to sky sports 1,2,3 and 4 and shortly will have the Red Button feature which means in reality there will be very little sporting events if any that are sky exclusive for vm customers.

Nice to see your post on here i read your postings on D/S.

Thanks for that, Richard 1960! I'm not getting a lot of feedback on the video streaming issue, which I do think is the way forward for VM; I think perhaps a lot of people are either not with me on this or don't have the same vision. Glad to see at least someone shares that opinion!

I would be very interested to know whether the Sky exclusivity rights actually cover video streaming onto TV and whether VM could do what I am suggesting. If so, the future's looking good!

The reason I was concerned about sports rights was that Sky are witholding HD from us on two of their channels (Sky Sports 3 and 4), and if we can get these events via a different method, maybe we could avoid these monopolistic behaviours and ignore Sky altogether if that's how they want to play it.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Sky personally, but if they are going to prevent us from getting the programmes or HD sports events that we want, then they deserve everything they get should we find ways to avoid receiving the programmes through them. They will lose out in the end -their policy is greedy, short sighted and one which they will live to regret in time through reduced business. For all Mr Murdoch's brilliant vision, he seems to have a disastrous blind spot when it comes to his VM Sky subscribers that is leading him and his successors to this course of action that they will regret at leisure.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Thanks for that, Richard 1960! I'm not getting a lot of feedback on the video streaming issue, which I do think is the way forward for VM; I think perhaps a lot of people are either not with me on this or don't have the same vision. Glad to see at least someone shares that opinion!.

I'm with you on the streaming; it's one aspect of tivo that makes it so good.

I'm not shure how long it's going to take, but it's moving quite fast, with the growth of internet connected TVs and devices; Lovefilm and the other video services availabe via my Sony BR player are great.

I think sorting out content rights may be he thing that slows it down. but there are encouraging things happening there; the review of VOD rights and the finantial clout of Amazon, who now fully own Lovefilm, being a couple.

[Big-Ted]

Originally Posted by passingbat

I'm with you on the streaming; it's one aspect of tivo that makes it so good.

I'm not shure how long it's going to take, but it's moving quite fast, with the growth of internet connected TVs and devices; Lovefilm and the other video services availabe via my Sony BR player are great.

I think sorting out content rights may be he thing that slows it down. but there are encouraging things happening there; the review of VOD rights and the finantial clout of Amazon, who now fully own Lovefilm, being a couple.

More big money competition for Sky


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02...e_says_report/


Google preps YouTube movie service 'for UK'

Google is reportedly planning to launch an unlimited movie subscription service in the UK.

The company is still searching for ways to make money out of its online video-sharing website YouTube, which – despite various content deals with big name record companies – remains something of a pet project at Mountain View.


According to the New York Post, Google is looking to offer a service similar to that provided by US-based Netflix and Amazon, which has been fiddling with its own film streaming service, after buying LoveFilm in January this year.

The YouTube brand will be wrapped around the UK launch of Google's own movie subscription service. If successful this will expand into Europe and the US, said New York Post, which cited execs briefed on the proposal.

Google is understood to have set aside $100m for deals with Hollywood studios and other content providers to get the service off the ground.

The Register has asked Google to comment on the story, but hadn't heard back at time of writing. ®

[muppetman11]

It's big money competition for VM as well , VM have an on demand movie service.

[TheDon]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

It's big money competition for VM as well , VM have an on demand movie service.

But VM could offer the google service as an app on Tivo ala netflix in the US.

[pythagoras]

Originally Posted by Big-Ted

More big money competition for Sky


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02...e_says_report/


Google preps YouTube movie service 'for UK'

Google is reportedly planning to launch an unlimited movie subscription service in the UK.

The company is still searching for ways to make money out of its online video-sharing website YouTube, which – despite various content deals with big name record companies – remains something of a pet project at Mountain View.


According to the New York Post, Google is looking to offer a service similar to that provided by US-based Netflix and Amazon, which has been fiddling with its own film streaming service, after buying LoveFilm in January this year.

The YouTube brand will be wrapped around the UK launch of Google's own movie subscription service. If successful this will expand into Europe and the US, said New York Post, which cited execs briefed on the proposal.

Google is understood to have set aside $100m for deals with Hollywood studios and other content providers to get the service off the ground.

The Register has asked Google to comment on the story, but hadn't heard back at time of writing. ®

What a difference a day makes:

http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/856672-y...ervice-reports

[LexDiamond]

Does VM's VoD movie service get much business? It just seems quite expensive for what it offers.