Building a pc

AMD heatsinks are a lot easier to fit than the Intel crappy 4 peg HSF designs but you have to be careful getting the cpu out the packaging and to the board

[DocDutch]

have a look at novatech.co.uk as well as they have some great bundles where all is tested and put together already you just have to add a graphics card

[damien c]

Originally Posted by DocDutch

have a look at novatech.co.uk as well as they have some great bundles where all is tested and put together already you just have to add a graphics card

I have told him about the one that scan does, add's a litle cost but it is £360 for a AMD 6 core overclocked at 3.8ghz which is not bad for a board chip ram and cooler, especially given it's a 6 core cpu.

Agreed anti static precautions are something the amateur ignores and have no idea the damage they can cause

that pic lol ISA slots not used one of them for a long time

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Didn't notice that. Just grabbed a quick example picci.

Last PC build I did with those in was years ago on a P166+ Mobo.

It looks like a Super Socket 7 mobo. I had one originally came with a Cyrix 333 MMX cpu that was realy clocked @ 233mhz. Cyrix got in a lot of trouble for their naming structure. I remember upgrading it to a AMD K6 500 mhz iirc you had to set the Vcore the multi and the fsb all with jumpers. How times have changed lol

[ZrByte]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Make sure you also get an anti-static wrist strap for him and that he knows the static risks to electronic parts. Keep all components in their anti-static bags until the point of assembley.

Overrated, you could also just build the machine in shoes, barefoot and make sure you touch a nearby radiator before handling components. Never do it in socks, especially on carpet. Also doesn't hurt to make sure your hands are clean.

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Originally Posted by ooogemaflop

4 gig of ram with windows 7 64 bit is absolutely fine built loads of fully loaded systems with 4 gig. 6 gig with a triple channel mobo

You could save money on the cpu by going with an Athlon II instead of the Phenom only difference is Lvl2 cache and benchmarks show the Athlon II performing equally clock for clock with the phenoms

Using 4GB in my machine with no problems at all. I don't do any modern FPS gaming but Have played plenty of modern RTS games which are bog hogs on the CPU and RAM and haven't filled my 4GB. Also using an Athlon II Quad and have to say it performs extremely well though if the price difference is small enough I would still probably go for the Phenom.

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Originally Posted by ooogemaflop

It looks like a Super Socket 7 mobo. I had one originally came with a Cyrix 333 MMX cpu that was realy clocked @ 233mhz. Cyrix got in a lot of trouble for their naming structure. I remember upgrading it to a AMD K6 500 mhz iirc you had to set the Vcore the multi and the fsb all with jumpers. How times have changed lol

looks more like a socket A board to me, there are more PCI than ISA rather than an equal amount and the IDE sockets are colour coded. On the socket 7s the sockets where generally black.

thanks for all the realy usefull advice guys ,all of which is being taken on board

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what do you guys think would be the best case from here ,the first on left is the one my son listed but do agree that a better case is needed and taking your advice he agrees http://www.amazon.co.uk/

Originally Posted by ZrByte

Overrated, you could also just build the machine in shoes, barefoot and make sure you touch a nearby radiator before handling components. Never do it in socks, especially on carpet. Also doesn't hurt to make sure your hands are clean.

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Using 4GB in my machine with no problems at all. I don't do any modern FPS gaming but Have played plenty of modern RTS games which are bog hogs on the CPU and RAM and haven't filled my 4GB. Also using an Athlon II Quad and have to say it performs extremely well though if the price difference is small enough I would still probably go for the Phenom.

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looks more like a socket A board to me, there are more PCI than ISA rather than an equal amount and the IDE sockets are colour coded. On the socket 7s the sockets where generally black.

Im gonna stick with Super Socket 7 as both do look similar but skt A has more pins and a smaller center space. Although from the angle it could be either. The Lack of any AGP reminds me of my SS7 machine from days of yore

socket A

super socket 7[COLOR="Silver"]

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could quite easily be a PGA370 for the old PIII also

hi guys ,just an update on this thread .I have just ordered the parts we need ,they are all coming from Amazon as at the moment they will be cheapest overall .there are some changes to the original list

"AMD Phenom II X4 Quad 955 Core 3.2GHz Processor 4 x 512 KB Boxed - Black Edition"
Electronics; £108.99

Sapphire HD5770 1GB GDDR5 Graphics Card"
Accessory; £99.99

Asus AM3 M4A77TD Pro S/L 5200MT/S"
Accessory; £65.45

Corsair CMPSU-500CX 500W Power Supply"
Electronics; £46.74

"CORSAIR 4GB 1333MHz CL9 DDR3 Memory Kit"
Electronics; £46.89

"Elite 330 Mid Tower Chassis"
Accessory; £35.47

Total £409.23

i would appreciate some feed back (not too criticle please ) and thanks once again for all the advice it was much appreciated

should all go together nicely :-)

[DocDutch]

nice setup but I would go for a bigger PSU for future proofing it...

Originally Posted by DocDutch

nice setup but I would go for a bigger PSU for future proofing it...

yeah we did have a look at a bigger one but the budget wouldn't stretch at the moment ,and at the end of the day the PSU isn't that expensive comparitively speaking so it would be possible to upgrade if needed at a later date ,thanks for the feedback

hi guys ,need a bit of help getting going .we have installed the mother board ,psu ,processor ,and graphics card ,we have hit a snag with the initial start up .the mother board doesn't have a vga connection ,just a com port .There is a vga on the graphics card but as there are no drivers installed we just get a "no signal"message on screen

2nd problem is that when the dvd drive is installed the IDE cable stops power to the drive

faulty mobo at a guess with the 2 faults.

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you should get image to the screen without drivers
You have to rule out gfx card of course but the ide fault sounds like its possibly sending a short
Do you get any beeps?

Originally Posted by ooogemaflop

faulty mobo at a guess with the 2 faults.

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you should get image to the screen without drivers
You have to rule out gfx card of course but the ide fault sounds like its possibly sending a short
Do you get any beeps?

no beeps