16-04-2010, 12:57
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Re: Some shocking news
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I find it disturbing that so many find so much delight in the death of another human being. Yes, he it appears he was attempting to steal something, but there is no way he deserved to die for it, or do you all think, because you believe he was a traveller he deserved to die anyway?
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I think that the people that lose their power supply caused by idiots like this will feel otherwise plus the is the possibilty that their vandalism and theft of cabling such as this could potentially cause the death of an innocent person.
I therfore have little pity for people such as this.
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16-04-2010, 13:01
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Re: Some shocking news
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I find it disturbing that so many find so much delight in the death of another human being. Yes, he it appears he was attempting to steal something, but there is no way he deserved to die for it, or do you all think, because you believe he was a traveller he deserved to die anyway?
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Please read the story and let me know where it mentions him being a traveller?
He was trying to deprive an entity (in this case a corporate one) of it's property in the interests of self gain. And due to his own actions he is not a burden on the taxpayer, nor is he likely to reoffend, and may serve as a warning to others. He achieved this through an act of stupidity so monumental as to earn him a darwin award as long as he has not so far reproduced. Therefore, amusing.
Had it been an accident which could not have been avoided, or had his death not occurred in the pursuit of nefarious goals, then the response in the forum would have been different.
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16-04-2010, 13:14
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Re: Some shocking news
Safe to assume he wasn't an immigrant or Muslim either, else they would have made that abundantly clear!
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16-04-2010, 13:17
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Re: Some shocking news
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Originally Posted by Masque
I think that the people that lose their power supply caused by idiots like this will feel otherwise plus the is the possibilty that their vandalism and theft of cabling such as this could potentially cause the death of an innocent person.
I therfore have little pity for people such as this.
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And it's all okay because the thief got killed. Yeah, let's all have good laugh at that. 
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Please read the story and let me know where it mentions him being a traveller?
He was trying to deprive an entity (in this case a corporate one) of it's property in the interests of self gain. And due to his own actions he is not a burden on the taxpayer, nor is he likely to reoffend, and may serve as a warning to others. He achieved this through an act of stupidity so monumental as to earn him a darwin award as long as he has not so far reproduced. Therefore, amusing.
Had it been an accident which could not have been avoided, or had his death not occurred in the pursuit of nefarious goals, then the response in the forum would have been different.
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That "entity" has robbed more people, of more value than he was attempting to do, I don't see anyone hoping for their deaths'. I am not the one who was assuming he was a traveller, it was other posters on here who were quite happy to make that assumption. Since when has the death of a thief ever been a just punishment?
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16-04-2010, 13:24
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Re: Some shocking news
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The pikeys are always trying to nick Virgin cable and get a surprise when they find out that it is not copper. 
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My aunt lost her BT phone for several weeks because someone nicked one of BT's trunk cables.
Thankfully, when something urgent did happen, she had her Mobile and their nearest mobile mast was unaffected by the theft.
I should be surprised that someone would be willing to risk their life for the few quid the copper would get (assuming they could sell it, I suspect it would stand out). After all, most substations (in my experience) don't exactly blend into the background, what with being large cabinets covered in bright yellow warning signs and tending to buzz loudly.
Sadly, I am not surprised.
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16-04-2010, 13:26
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Re: Some shocking news
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My aunt lost her BT phone for several weeks because someone nicked one of BT's trunk cables.
Thankfully, when something urgent did happen, she had her Mobile and their nearest mobile mast was unaffected by the theft.
I should be surprised that someone would be willing to risk their life for the few quid the copper would get (assuming they could sell it, I suspect it would stand out). After all, most substations (in my experience) don't exactly blend into the background, what with being large cabinets covered in bright yellow warning signs and tending to buzz loudly.
Sadly, I am not surprised.
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But I'm sure no one would have been overjoyed if the thief had died.
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16-04-2010, 13:30
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Re: Some shocking news
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Originally Posted by Flyboy
And it's all okay because the thief got killed. Yeah, let's all have good laugh at that. 
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That "entity" has robbed more people, of more value than he was attempting to do, I don't see anyone hoping for their deaths'. I am not the one who was assuming he was a traveller, it was other posters on here who were quite happy to make that assumption. Since when has the death of a thief ever been a just punishment?
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His choice, he took a risk and it didn't pay off. The blame / cause of his death was by his own hands. No point in blaming anyone else.
It's the same with anyone that takes risks, from drink driving, playing with traffic etc etc, if they die well tough ain't it.
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16-04-2010, 13:35
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Re: Some shocking news
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And it's all okay because the thief got killed. Yeah, let's all have good laugh at that.  [COLOR="Silver"]
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Not sure anyone wants to laugh. After all, the thief's family are probably innocent of any wrongdoing in this, and probably suffering.
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Originally Posted by Lord Nikon
Please read the story and let me know where it mentions him being a traveller?
He was trying to deprive an entity (in this case a corporate one) of it's property in the interests of self gain.
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Let me get one thing straight. I feel no sorrow for the electricity company. They will replace the missing cable, then just pass on the cost to their customers. After all, if it's not as if it's easy for most people to just decide they aren't going to use electricity, and regardless of who you pay your bill to, the local electricity company supplies the electricity and just charges whoever bills you. They'll just increase those charges, and the increase will eventually appear on customer bills.
No. I feel sorry for the thousands of people who, for one reason or another, rely on Electricity for the basic things like heating, lighting and cooking. Even if you use gas for cooking, you may still be affected if your gas or water company uses an electric pumping station in the area served by the substation. Not to mention all those people losing thousands of pounds worth of food because their fridges/freezers no longer work.
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16-04-2010, 13:39
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Re: Some shocking news
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Originally Posted by peanut
His choice, he took a risk and it didn't pay off. The blame / cause of his death was by his own hands. No point in blaming anyone else.
It's the same with anyone that takes risks, from drink driving, playing with traffic etc etc, if they die well tough ain't it.
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I am not denying that this man has been the cause of his own fate, but there is no need to, either make prejudicial assumptions about his ethnicity, nor to take abject delight in his death. Death is no justification for theft.
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16-04-2010, 13:42
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Re: Some shocking news
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I am not denying that this man has been the cause of his own fate, but there is no need to, either make prejudicial assumptions about his ethnicity, nor to take abject delight in his death. Death is no justification for theft.
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It is when it comes to stealing cable from a substation. There's enough warning signs up around them telling you that you could die if you mess with them, so if you die, then yeah it's justified.
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16-04-2010, 13:45
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Re: Some shocking news
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It is when it comes to stealing cable from a substation. There's enough warning signs up around them telling you that you could die if you mess with them, so if you die, then yeah it's justified.
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There is never any justification for the death of a human being.
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16-04-2010, 13:56
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Re: Some shocking news
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There is never any justification for the death of a human being.
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He caused his own death while attempting to steal, so self inflicted bscause if he would still be alive if he had not wanted to steal someones property.
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16-04-2010, 13:58
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Re: Some shocking news
It may have been inevitable, but one could hardly say that justice had been served and certainly not cause for celebration, is it.
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16-04-2010, 14:17
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Re: Some shocking news
I think it's really sick that it's in current affairs.
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16-04-2010, 14:23
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Re: Some shocking news
I mocked a person who died in a sort of attempt at humour , it would be nice to think that these internet posters get the same treatment as i did maybe a weeks holiday  but i doubt they will  its not who you are but who you know
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