Boyle goes too far? - Page 2

Graham M · 09-04-2010, 19:10

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Originally Posted by Gary L

She paid to hear and laugh at crude nasty comments said about somebody elses daughter. but when it come to her daughter having crude and nasty comments made?

you can't please everyone with comedy. you can only please certain sections of people at a time.

Agree completely

**Damien** · 09-04-2010, 19:11

Again, I think it's easy to say 'crude and nasty comments about someone elses daughter' but according to reports this was just someone laughing at disabled people rather than making a joke? He simply did an impression of someone with downs. Also it seems it kicked off when he challenged her, not the other way around.

Taf · 09-04-2010, 19:19

You've got to have a thick skin as a Carer... and a good laugh is great medicine, even if you have to laugh at yourself or your family.

It keeps me from going cuckoo..... well completely cuckoo.

Hom3r · 09-04-2010, 19:20

I must watch the 2 Mock the Week DVDs I have that have stuff that can never be aired. FB is on it.

budwieser · 09-04-2010, 19:41

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Originally Posted by Hom3r

I must watch the 2 Mock the Week DVDs I have that have stuff that can never be aired. FB is on it.

I`ve got them mate, you`ll love them.

If you like Frankie Boyle, you`ll love these.

Lord Nikon · 09-04-2010, 21:10

also worth finding are the blue collar comedy tour DVDs (4 of) and the Rodney Carrington and the majestic DVD. especially Rodney's song 'show them to me' heh

frogstamper · 10-04-2010, 02:02

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Originally Posted by Damien

Again, I think it's easy to say 'crude and nasty comments about someone elses daughter' but according to reports this was just someone laughing at disabled people rather than making a joke? He simply did an impression of someone with downs. Also it seems it kicked off when he challenged her, not the other way around.

Couldn't agree more Damien, as far as I'm concerned there is very little subject matter out of bounds in comedy.
But there is a world of difference between a joke at a Downs person's expense and the visceral mickey taking about early death and how a person looks, having said that its a free country and if people find this sort of material funny then he certainly knows his audience...personally I think its lazy "comedy", and I use the word comedy very sparingly.

Flyboy · 13-04-2010, 00:20

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Originally Posted by Paul M

There is always someone wanting their 15 minutes of fame by being "offended" by something. If they were that offended then why not just leave, and not bother going to see the bloke again - why the need to go crying to the media.

I believe it was because he challenged them as to why they were talking.

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He then spotted Mrs Smith squirming in the front row at Reading's Hexagon Theatre and told her off for talking during his set.

Which says to me that he asked and was answered. If he didn't like the reply, he shouldn't have asked the question.

They do not seem to be the types to garner unwarranted attention unnecessarily. She wrote about it on her blog, I expect to earn some catharthis and was presumably noticed by someone from the media.

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Originally Posted by peanut

So Russ from hearing what everyone else has to say, and I'd agree with all of them, as they all say the same thing in the end. Do the comment here make any difference to you or change your of opinion? Are there things that shouldn't be allowed (do you have any other examples perhaps)?

As stated in the article, if this person laughed at another joke she would be then hypocritical.

I think you must have been reading a different thread. They don't all agree.

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Originally Posted by Taf

You've got to have a thick skin as a Carer... and a good laugh is great medicine, even if you have to laugh at yourself or your family.

It keeps me from going cuckoo..... well completely cuckoo.

I concur, but there is a difference between a funny joke and and someone using disabilities to deliberatley offend. I am as willing as the next man to have a chuckle at a funny, clever joke about autism, but if it was suggested that autistic people are ugly, odd people with no prospects, I would most certainly take offence.

Gary L · 13-04-2010, 00:30

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

I think you must have been reading a different thread. They don't all agree.

At the time of making the post they did.

13-04-2010, 01:51

Shame that he's quit Mock The Week.... He was deffo the highlight of the show....

**Damien** · 13-04-2010, 09:34

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Originally Posted by frogstamper

Couldn't agree more Damien, as far as I'm concerned there is very little subject matter out of bounds in comedy.
But there is a world of difference between a joke at a Downs person's expense and the visceral mickey taking about early death and how a person looks, having said that its a free country and if people find this sort of material funny then he certainly knows his audience...personally I think its lazy "comedy", and I use the word comedy very sparingly.

Exactly. You can make any topic funny, you can find humour in disability in which everyone can enjoy because no individual is the butt of the joke. Your not mocking someone just for being different and presuding people to laugh alone with you at their expense, bascially the same as bullies at school, your finding humorous aspects of their life. One which a lot of people in that position may also find funny. But mocking their voice and their walk? That's entirely different.

Pierre · 13-04-2010, 09:54

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Originally Posted by Damien

Exactly. You can make any topic funny, you can find humour in disability in which everyone can enjoy because no individual is the butt of the joke. Your not mocking someone just for being different and presuding people to laugh alone with you at their expense, bascially the same as bullies at school, your finding humorous aspects of their life. One which a lot of people in that position may also find funny. But mocking their voice and their walk? That's entirely different.

And the response to that is............so what?

Is good that I can recycle a post that I made just yesterday in another thread.

I'm sick of people being offended. The idea that if you "offend" someone, that some kind of appeasement is neccessary really winds me up.

It's one of our freedoms. If someone is offended that's fine they can be offended.

It's a point of view, what you find offensive I may not, and vice versa.

Unless it is prescribed in law that the "offensive" act is illegal in any way, (which of course is different), Otherwise if anybody says to you "I find that offensive" say "good" and then tell them to F****ff

Same applies here.

She offended? Well that's unfortunate for her then isn't it?

**Damien** · 13-04-2010, 10:01

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Originally Posted by Pierre

And the response to that is............so what?

Is good that I can recycle a post that I made just yesterday in another thread.

YAY! Recycling.

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I'm sick of people being offended. The idea that if you "offend" someone, that some kind of appeasement is neccessary really winds me up.

It's one of our freedoms. If someone is offended that's fine they can be offended.

It's a point of view, what you find offensive I may not, and vice versa.

Unless it is prescribed in law that the "offensive" act is illegal in any way, (which of course is different), Otherwise if anybody says to you "I find that offensive" say "good" and then tell them to F****ff

And my response that is .... eh?

He is not being sued, nor investigated, or being censored in any way. Someone made a critism of his comedy and some of us agree, we are entitled to give criticism about his style of comedy just as much as he is entitled to say what he did. You mention freedoms well this is just one of them.

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Same applies here.

She offended? Well that's unfortunate for her then isn't it?

Him as well because it reinforces his critics view on his comedy, he may not care, but I don't recall any long term "shock comedians". There is only so far he can get with the "he can't say that, can he?" type of jokes before people get bored.

Pierre · 13-04-2010, 10:08

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Originally Posted by Damien

but I don't recall any long term "shock comedians".

Jerry Sadowitz, Chubby Brown, Jimmy Carr, Billy Connolly (you may not think but he has been pretty shocking in his time, I remember him making jokes about the guy from Liverpool that was beheaded in Iraq).

If he's funny, he's funny, I'd go to see him.