Another protest against plans for a new mosque

Originally Posted by Russ

How about "remind you to leave the running of the forum to the team"?

Seriously, who cares if there's a mosque nearby? And why would they care? Sounds more like people just don't want these "dark-skinned people" talking and praying in "foreign languages" around them.

if you looked closely I actually asked "what ya gonna do" so your statement is misplaced.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by ceedee

What do you (Gary) think about the English Defence League protesters in Dudley chanting "If you build your f*cking mosque we'll burn it down" at 3:15 in this video?

It's catchy?

Originally Posted by Gary L

Thanks. this part is interesting about the council objected to it but the government says yes anyway.

That would be the EDL's misinterpretation of the planning process - BBC

A new £18m mosque and community centre looks set to be built in the West Midlands after a council lost its High Court appeal.

Dudley Council originally turned down the application to build the mosque on the grounds the land had been designated for employment purposes.

An appeal to the Planning Inspectorate overturned the council's decision so the council took it to the High Court

Originally Posted by Gary L

What's a mega mosque?

That would be an emotive term to inspire fear and anger.

Originally Posted by Russ

How about "remind you to leave the running of the forum to the team"?

Seriously, who cares if there's a mosque nearby? And why would they care? Sounds more like people just don't want these "dark-skinned people" talking and praying in "foreign languages" around them.

nothing in how I feel about Muslims has anything to do with race colour or language

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

That would be the EDL's misinterpretation of the planning process

The government part of it must have been the one that rejected the councils opposal.

Dudley Council turned down plans by the Dudley Muslim Association to build the mosque in Hall Street, Dudley, last year after a petition opposing the scheme raised 22,000 signatures.
But the association took their fight to a public inquiry and now a Government planning inspector has ruled in its favour, granting its appeal against the council’s refusal of outline planning permission.

http://www.birminghammail.net/news/t...7319-21365612/

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Soon as i saw the title i just knew who would have started the thread.

I know I was actually quite surprised and faintly horrified.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Moldova

I know I was actually quite surprised and faintly horrified.

Is the thread title ok. you're not upset about anything?

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Is the thread title ok. you're not upset about anything?

No not at all and I have voted using the bottom option.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Moldova

No not at all and I have voted using the bottom option.

I made it multiple choice. so you could have also picked "I lied" if it was there to pick

[Stuart]

I voted "I don't care" Basically, for me to be OK with it, it would need to meet the same criteria as any building where large groups of people need to go to and leave the building. It doesn't inconvenience me too much.

If they built one near me and I had to put up with blocked roads, being woken by the call to prayer etc, then I'd be angry. But if they built a church near me, and the roads were blocked and the bells woke me, I'd still be angry. Similarly if they built a large supermarket near me, and the roads were blocked and noise level woke me, I'd still be angry.

[frogstamper]

Originally Posted by ceedee

What do you (Gary) think about the English Defence League protesters in Dudley chanting "If you build your f*cking mosque we'll burn it down" at 3:15 in this video?

In some cases like the proposed "mega mosque" in the East End, there are genuine causes for concern like millions of pounds of Saudi money being fed around the world in the hope of promoting their very hard line Wahabism sect of Islam.
As regards the mosque in this story if its for local people then so what? Seeing the thugs from the EDL in the link above gives me far more cause for concern, the vast bulk came across as uneducated racist morons chanting their hateful drivel.
In my view this mouthy EDL lot are no different than the hard line haters on the Muslim side, the irony is both sides are to stupid to realize it. Pity we can't ship each side out to a remote uninhabited island in the outer Hebrides, that way both sides can be with only their "own kind"...I wonder how long this supposed nirvana would last before they turned on each other?

[broadbandking]

Question is where is money coming from to build the mosque, tax payers?

I don't see the need for them, there are plenty around the west midlands no need for anymore, plus how many English go overseas and demand a mega church is built.

Originally Posted by ceedee

What do you (Gary) think about the English Defence League protesters in Dudley chanting "If you build your f*cking mosque we'll burn it down" at 3:15 in this video?

Originally Posted by Gary L

It's catchy?

I could imagine you singing along to it.......

Originally Posted by Gary L

The government part of it must have been the one that rejected the councils opposal.
http://www.birminghammail.net/news/t...7319-21365612/

Conflating the Planning Inspectorate with "the Government" in this case is like stating that "the Government" stopped your benefits when you cease to be eligible for Job Seekers Allowance. The EDL appear to state that members of the Government were involved in decision-making, when in fact what happened was just part of the due process of planning and appeals. There appears to be confusion between policy-making and policy implementation.

And the High Court - is that part of the Government? Or is it part of an independent appeals process?

If the Secretary of State had been involved in the decision-making process (as in these), the EDL would have had a valid point - but as he wasn't, they don't.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

I could imagine you singing along to it.......

We all would be if it made the charts.

If the Secretary of State had been involved in the decision-making process (as in these), the EDL would have had a valid point - but as he wasn't, they don't.

Silly people.

[Xaccers]

There's a mosque just around the corner from here (about 100yrds away) and the only problem it causes is with parking on a Friday afternoon, but as most people are at work, it's not much of a problem.