The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 4

[Niles Crane]

Originally Posted by martyh

so what did she say then ?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7110540.ece

Whether you agree with the judgement or not, i'd say "sort of bigoted" (his exact words) is a fair judgement for somebody to make.

This whole story is a mountain out of a molehill, and i'm not even a Labour supporter either.

[nomadking]

Gillian Duffy: You can't say anything about the immigrants because you're saying that you're... but all these eastern Europeans what are coming in, where are they flocking from?

And his comments demonstrate, that what she said is true.

[mikegreen]

Originally Posted by bjorkiii

I still haven't made my mind up yet, i know it certainly won't be conservative but i need to do some in depth thought then lay the polling card in my budgie cage and see which one gets picked 1st
.

Don't you mean see which one gets pecked first?

It's the only way to be sure. Budgie knows best.

[Niles Crane]

It's a good question to be honest. I've often wondered just quite where all these Eastern European people are coming from. Islamistan? South Slovakland? The Over There? Atlantis? Neverneverland? It's a mystery.

Originally Posted by Niles Crane

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7110540.ece

Whether you agree with the judgement or not, i'd say "sort of bigoted" (his exact words) is a fair judgement for somebody to make.

This whole story is a mountain out of a molehill, and i'm not even a Labour supporter either.

i would agree ,i think any other time it would be a nothing story ,i think she is a "sort of bigot" in the same way as a lot of people are "sort of bigots" in that we are concerned about immigration

[mikegreen]

"but all these eastern Europeans what are coming in, where are they flocking from?"

I'll take a stab at answering this. Eastern Europe maybe?

I was going to hazard a guess at that region too.

Spooky.

[Xaccers]

There's a big difference between a bigotted view of "we're letting in too many foreigners which I object to because they are foreign" and a concern of hers which was basically "we can't afford to support a rapidly increasing population that are entitled to state support"

[Tezcatlipoca]

I don't like Gordon, but I think this is more important than the "bigot story" which has dominated today...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-1956149.html

Originally Posted by The Independent

Main parties are blamed for conspiracy of silence on cuts

Institute for Fiscal Studies condemns failure to tell voters the truth about spending plans

By Sean O'Grady, Economics Editor

A damning indictment of the failure of all three political parties to tell the public the truth about the painful spending cuts that must follow the election has been issued by the nation's leading think-tank on the public finances, the Institute for Fiscal Studies.

The IFS, which is independent of political influence, says that the as-yet unspecified cuts in spending amount to some £52.5bn in the case of the Conservatives, £44.1bn for Labour and £34.4bn for the Liberal Democrats – which are the sums each party will have to find if they are to meet their stated aims for deficit reduction.

They imply deep cuts in almost every public service. The Conservative Party figure is larger than those for the other two parties because it has said it wants to cut public borrowing sooner and faster, and that it would put less emphasis on tax rises.

The IFS indicated that even now, a week before polling, the public is not being prepared for the age of austerity that will follow the election, which will involve the largest spending cuts since the Second World War if the Tories win, or since the 1970s in the case of Labour and the Liberal Democrats.

The institute's director, Robert Chote, condemned all the parties for being "strikingly reticent" about their true intentions and for their failure to come clean on precisely where cuts would be made. Mr Chote added: "The opposition parties have not even set out fiscal targets clearly, and all three are particularly vague on their plans for public spending. The blame for that lies with the Government for refusing to hold a spending review before the election."

(snip)

Originally Posted by Niles Crane

You think she wasn't

No I *know* she wasn't - I heard the whole interview and nothing she said was bigoted, all her concerns were genuine questions asking a government which has failed her as a supporter/voter for the Labour Party over the years.

[Hom3r]

Does anybody give a flying fig of hat he said?

Everybody has made comments about people they have spoken too.

Myself made a comment about a guy (After we left and was walking back to the car)who was at a Diabetic understanding group, who was being an arse.

Its human nature, and perhaps he should have been more guarded that he had a mic on which happened to be live.

Originally Posted by Niles Crane

You think she wasn't, clearly GB thinks her opinions show otherwise.

Sadly this is the reason the BNP is gaining a foothold. When politicians simply refuse to engage with the debate, and prefer instead to simply label people as 'bigoted', it is natural that those people will in time be driven into the arms of a party that will engage with them. The BNP is a monster made in Downing Street IMO.

[Sirius]

Well what can i say.

I have just had my evening meal and put my feet up to watch the news properly. Most of what has happened today i heard about on the radio but to watch and hear what that idiot said and did is shocking to say the least.

If Brown and his cronies get in power following this then there is a serious need to change the election process in this country or we might need to have a revolution.

He knew what he was saying and for him to say it was not intended is just another lie to add to the endless Labours lies we hear every day.

The dark lord Mandelson was quick to try and defuse this but even he had trouble spinning a line that was even remotely helpful to brown.

You can bet the Labour supporters on here will be quick to support him and try and blame this on anyone but the person who said the words.

No one made him say those words no one twisted his arm, They came straight from the soul and proves that he does not give a hoot about the great unwashed that vote for him.

They say that the prime minister is the person that says if the big red button should ever be pushed. Now we find out there are two buttons, One of them is the big red self destruct and Brown pushed it for the Labour party today

Well done Mr Brown BTW Get used to that name because they will not be saying Prime Minister Brown for much longer



Thank you Mr Brown for ending Labours chances in the election in such a spectacular way

Thank you Mr Brown for proving to me that you are a complete numpty.

And now you got that idiot Harman backing her idiot boss...

Its like watching the muppets in here some times