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Old 11-03-2010, 15:56   #16
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Re: Virgin Media to Trial Ultrafast Broadband over Telegraph Poles

wait until a voilent thunderstorms come along in summer and one lightning bolt could damaging the telegraph poles and possible blew up the TV set at home!
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Old 11-03-2010, 16:02   #17
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Re: Virgin Media to Trial Ultrafast Broadband over Telegraph Poles

I had a router and an ethernet controller fried that way, with them being connected to a BT socket, which in turn is connected to about 4 miles of aerial cable back to the exchange.
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Re: Virgin Media to Trial Ultrafast Broadband over Telegraph Poles

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wait until a voilent thunderstorms come along in summer and one lightning bolt could damaging the telegraph poles and possible blew up the TV set at home!
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I had a router and an ethernet controller fried that way, with them being connected to a BT socket, which in turn is connected to about 4 miles of aerial cable back to the exchange.
I suppose it depends how far the fiber goes? Would anything happen if lightening struck fiber?
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Re: Virgin Media to Trial Ultrafast Broadband over Telegraph Poles

Big pulse of light that would fry optical repeaters and decoders?
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Re: Virgin Media to Trial Ultrafast Broadband over Telegraph Poles

I don't imagine it's as conductive as copper, but once you get to a certain voltage, just about anything is conductive to some degree or other.
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Re: Virgin Media to Trial Ultrafast Broadband over Telegraph Poles

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wait until a voilent thunderstorms come along in summer and one lightning bolt could damaging the telegraph poles and possible blew up the TV set at home!
No different really, then, from when we used aerials on top of our homes to receive OTA broadcasts.

Hardly a major concern.

How's the 50Mbit fantasyband running now?

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I don't imagine it's as conductive as copper, but once you get to a certain voltage, just about anything is conductive to some degree or other.
The fibre, being glass, will melt due to conversion of the electricity to thermal energy being so resistive surely?

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I suppose it depends how far the fiber goes? Would anything happen if lightening struck fiber?
The fibre and its' plastic coating turn into melted gloop
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Re: Virgin Media to Trial Ultrafast Broadband over Telegraph Poles

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It could save VM millions if they allow that and increase their coverage... hmmm, but I'm sure others would also jump on the bandwagon too
yeah it could save them millions but will they spend those millions on upgrading the network to be able to cope with the extra customers their taking on and not cause extra subscription problems for existing customers?
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Could they do fibre to the home via this method?
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Re: Virgin Media to Trial Ultrafast Broadband over Telegraph Poles

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yeah it could save them millions but will they spend those millions on upgrading the network to be able to cope with the extra customers their taking on and not cause extra subscription problems for existing customers?
They'll be building new nodes and attaching them to new equipment, it's not an issue.

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Could they do fibre to the home via this method?
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Re: Virgin Media to Trial Ultrafast Broadband over Telegraph Poles

It would have to be fiber, otherwise you'd be getting the pikeys nicking it and stripping out the copper
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Re: Virgin Media to Trial Ultrafast Broadband over Telegraph Poles

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It would have to be fiber, otherwise you'd be getting the pikeys nicking it and stripping out the copper
They nick it anyway, the amount of internet outages with ADSL due to cable damage along railways is getting worse.

BT have lots of fibre running in the signalling ducts along the railways.
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They'll be building new nodes and attaching them to new equipment, it's not an issue.

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Yep.
I have a feeling that they wont have to build to many in some areas. With the oversubscription problems in some areas that havnt been sorted for months and now BT's new services opening up people will jump ship which will in turn help stop the problems which i think VM are hoping for in some areas as they wont have to spend the money on the network.
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Cable over telegraph poles nooooooooo i hate heights .Diamond cable did this years ago in Notts in Mapperley they were the fibre glass poles so no ladder there rg6 overhead .The was a tap plate in the base of the pole and a telephone strip or in some cases a cabinet next to the pole .I think it was all replaced with under ground stuff some time later .
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I have a feeling that they wont have to build to many in some areas. With the oversubscription problems in some areas that havnt been sorted for months and now BT's new services opening up people will jump ship which will in turn help stop the problems which i think VM are hoping for in some areas as they wont have to spend the money on the network.
New areas = extra money. Fixing oversubscription != extra money.

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Cable over telegraph poles nooooooooo i hate heights .Diamond cable did this years ago in Notts in Mapperley they were the fibre glass poles so no ladder there rg6 overhead .The was a tap plate in the base of the pole and a telephone strip or in some cases a cabinet next to the pole .I think it was all replaced with under ground stuff some time later .
It will be interesting to see how it is deployed. I would hazard a guess it'll be similar to North America - long lines running along streets with each however many homes required tapped off this cable run outside the property, so lots of smaller taps, and a line extender when required rather than the more common build here with a cabinet every so often with 24 or more taps and extender if needed in that cabinet.
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As long as the amps are on the ground and i do not have to go up a ladder
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