Will the Tories do Murdoch's bidding and kill off the BBC?

Originally Posted by soicky

Unfortunately yes.

My point is that the output of the BBC is so much wider than other TV organisations and aimed at a particularly large and diverse audience..How can anyone state that they categorically hate ALL of the output?

Originally Posted by Hiroki

Nope it was a genuine question as I despise the BBC & their output.

for what reason ?

[punky]

I hope so too. I begrudge being taxed £142.50 a year whether I want to watch the BBC or (any other TV channel really) or not.

Originally Posted by punky

I hope so too. I begrudge being taxed £142.50 a year whether I want to watch the BBC or (any other TV channel really) or not.

so do i but doesn't mean i want it to disapear

[Angua]

Happy to pay the licence fee provided we still have the BBC. Superb value for money when compared to any other paid service (which mostly have ads as well as being charged for).

Would loathe and detest wall to wall adverts, constant soaps or reality TV shows.

[punky]

Originally Posted by martyh

so do i but doesn't mean i want it to disapear

Who says it has to?

Why not let the people who want to watch it commercial free stump up £142/year and the ones who don't want to watch it or don't mind commercials to watch it free.

With digital broadcasting and mediums like VM and Sky it really isn't impossible to do.

Simples.

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Originally Posted by Angua

Happy to pay the licence fee provided we still have the BBC. Superb value for money when compared to any other paid service (which mostly have ads as well as being charged for).

Would loathe and detest wall to wall adverts, constant soaps or reality TV shows.

There are a lot of things I think are value for money that I am sure you wouldn't. Fortunately you aren't forced to pay for them anyway.

[ArronC07]

Originally Posted by punky

I hope so too. I begrudge being taxed £142.50 a year whether I want to watch the BBC or (any other TV channel really) or not.

You can always not own a TV.

[punky]

Originally Posted by ArronC07

You can always not own a TV.

Yeah, thanks for that.

[ArronC07]

I personally think the BBC should be protected, commercial broadcasters continually fail to cater for the tastes that the BBC cater for and public service broadcasters like ITV fail to meet their public service commitments and get away with it. The BBC acts as a quality bar that forces other broadcasters to compete, remember a few years ago before Doctor Who was brought back? All the commercial broadcaster said that the family audience was dead and that it'd fail- 10 million extra people watched TV the night it launched. By that I don't mean 10 million people switched over, I actually mean that 10 million people switched on TV that didn't watch TV the previous Saturday and that kick started the revival of family programming on a Saturday evening. The commercial broadcasters would never have taken that risk and were quite happy to pump out the same old tired menu.

Now while I don't use all the services that the BBC provides I appreciate that some people do and that it's only possible by virtue of the way it's funded and I'm happy to pay for this to continue as it's part of the social contract of living in this country. Frankly I find the attitude that some people resent contributing shortsighted and selfish. Commercial TV costs you more anyway, even free to air channels because the cost of advertising is shifted onto the final cost of the product that is sold toyou. The BBC is fantastic value for money and the envy of the world and any politician worth his salt should be defending it from media families with no interest in the social way of life in this country other than how much money they can wring out it.

I'm of the opinion that if you don't want to pay for the BBC then don't own a TV and don't own a radio.

Originally Posted by ArronC07

The commercial broadcasters would never have taken that risk and were quite happy to pump out the same old tired menu.

The really sad thing is, ITV, having been shown by the BBC that there is an audience for family fantasy drama on a Saturday evening, dipped its toe in the water with Primeval, which performed well for them for, IIRC, three years ... only for them to eventually can it, not because it was a flop, but because, no matter how good it was, Simon Cowell's plastic pop factory was always going to be more popular still. ITV, being a plc, always has to keep its sights firmly on the bottom line. Its decision was sad, but understandable.

That is why the BBC is now more important than ever. In a digital multi-channel age, where dozens of channels are compelled to scrap with each other to get the biggest possible audience for the lowest possible outlay, all we get is endless repeats of a few increasingly tarnished old favourites. Original programming consists of cheap soaps, safe, predictable police procedurals and the aforementioned Simon Cowell plus imitators.

The BBC, amongst a great many other things, is a guarantor of quality and variety.

[ArronC07]

Originally Posted by Chris

The really sad thing is, ITV, having been shown by the BBC that there is an audience for family fantasy drama on a Saturday evening, dipped its toe in the water with Primeval, which performed well for them for, IIRC, three years ... only for them to eventually can it, not because it was a flop, but because, no matter how good it was, Simon Cowell's plastic pop factory was always going to be more popular still. ITV, being a plc, always has to keep its sights firmly on the bottom line. Its decision was sad, but understandable.

That is why the BBC is now more important than ever. In a digital multi-channel age, where dozens of channels are compelled to scrap with each other to get the biggest possible audience for the lowest possible outlay, all we get is endless repeats of a few increasingly tarnished old favourites. Original programming consists of cheap soaps, safe, predictable police procedurals and the aforementioned Simon Cowell plus imitators.

The BBC, amongst a great many other things, is a guarantor of quality and variety.

I totally agree and enjoy the BBC while you can because Cameron has sold himself out and the country out in return for support from Murdoch's popular rag.

Originally Posted by ArronC07

I totally agree and enjoy the BBC while you can because Cameron has sold himself out and the country out in return for support from Murdoch's popular rag.

Now, there we disagree - as I noted eariler, Tony Blair similarly got cosy with Murdoch ahead of the 1997 election, and yet he didn't go on to kill off the Beeb, even though he had a pretty good go at neutralising them as an effective news organisation following the whole dodgy dossier debacle.

the way i see it is if the beeb doesn't get license fee money they will have to advertise like the other channels efectively meaning the end of the bbc ,and there's only so much advertising revenue to go round so i would say that the beebs revenue will fall through the floor and leave them no choice but to show repeats and trashy reality shows if they survive a tall

Originally Posted by Chris

The really sad thing is, ITV, having been shown by the BBC that there is an audience for family fantasy drama on a Saturday evening, dipped its toe in the water with Primeval, which performed well for them for, IIRC, three years ... only for them to eventually can it, not because it was a flop, but because, no matter how good it was, Simon Cowell's plastic pop factory was always going to be more popular still. ITV, being a plc, always has to keep its sights firmly on the bottom line. Its decision was sad, but understandable.

That is why the BBC is now more important than ever. In a digital multi-channel age, where dozens of channels are compelled to scrap with each other to get the biggest possible audience for the lowest possible outlay, all we get is endless repeats of a few increasingly tarnished old favourites. Original programming consists of cheap soaps, safe, predictable police procedurals and the aforementioned Simon Cowell plus imitators.

The BBC, amongst a great many other things, is a guarantor of quality and variety.

Primeval is coming back

http://www.itv.com/drama/cult/primev...1/default.html

[soicky]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

My point is that the output of the BBC is so much wider than other TV organisations and aimed at a particularly large and diverse audience..How can anyone state that they categorically hate ALL of the output?

My reply was to the thread title.