Full body scanners break child porn laws....

Originally Posted by Hom3r

I think people are missing the point.

There will be a very very small minority of these scanner operators who have a unhealthy interest in children.

Plus they will only be looking at the screens for <30 seconds

So what do we do then?

Allow kids to be full body scanned, or have them rubbed down?

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Whats stopping some fanatic nutter taking his wife and kid on a plane, and putting the items on the kid.

There are lots of points in this thread, and I don't think anyone is missing any of them.

The point you are making, about being realistic about the actual number of perverts rather than the News-of-the-World-induced hysterically inflated number, is a very valid one and extends to society at large.

One of the staff at my son's school remarked to me the other week, as I was handing over the finished DVD of the Christmas play, that we were lucky we were still able to record and distribute it. All it takes is one parent to complain and that would be it, no cameras. Thankfully we're a small school and everyone knows everyone else, so that's less likely to happen. But in many larger schools, some parents who believe the hype have long since put a stop to the perfectly innocent pursuit of videoing the children being cute and dressed up for Christmas. And in other places, even where the parents haven't complained, excessively-cautious councils have done it for them.

[Tarantella]

The problem or aeroplane and airport security is easily solved

Don't fly.

Put them out of business.

[NoKnowledge]

Originally Posted by Tarantella

The problem or aeroplane and airport security is easily solved

Don't fly.

Put them out of business.

What all because of a certain minority. I don't think so

Originally Posted by Tarantella

The problem or aeroplane and airport security is easily solved

Don't fly.

Put them out of business.

Sure, screw up our way of life and give the religious nutters exactly what they want.

You may be ready to roll over and give up, I'm not.

Originally Posted by Tarantella

The problem or aeroplane and airport security is easily solved

Don't fly.

Put them out of business.

So we penalise the travel companies for the problems the terrorists are causing and the responses the Governments are proposing.

That is not logical, Captain......

[Matty_]

Once again i think there has been a massive overreaction on this to the point where are civil liberties are being taken away slowly but surely.

How many times have the terrorists actually made a plane come down? I know one is too many but somewhere the line has to be drawn.

Aren`t these scanners like the ones in Perfect Recall where only solid objects/outlines show up, i`ve not seen much info on what they show actually show.

[Tarantella]

Originally Posted by Matty_

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Aren`t these scanners like the ones in Perfect Recall where only solid objects/outlines show up, i`ve not seen much info on what they show actually show.

I think you mean Total Recall.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CX9Agzeh-c

I quite like that over-protective laws have come into conflict with another over-protective security measure.

[NoKnowledge]

How much radiation are people exposed to by this machine. Little? What if you're a frequent flyer.

[alferret]

Originally Posted by NoKnowledge

How much radiation are people exposed to by this machine. Little? What if you're a frequent flyer.

I can see it now, headlines in The Sun.

"Man irradiated due to being a frequent flyer
sues government for being made sterile. Government says it wasnt there fault his sterility was in the nations security interest."

I never cease to be amazed at the measures that are taken and the freedoms we have given up in the stupid hope we are safer. Personally i would rather take the chance of an attack then have my privacy invaded in anyway and remember peeps we in the UK used to do it all the time during the irish problems.

There is no foolproof way of making us 100% safe in our daily life and invading everyone's privacy in the way this government has in the last twelve years isn't a trade off i think is worth it. As for airport scanner's well if children cannot be scanned then the whole thing is a joke isn't it because does anyone seriously think a person wanting to blow up a plane will have a problem putting a bomb on the kid it is just ridiculous but sadly what we have come to expect these days.

I have only caught snippets of this on the news and havn't seen any images of what this scanner shows is it really that detailed that someone could get their jolly's from it ??.

[haydnwalker]

It shows you naked but not in any great detail but I believe you CAN make out private parts (I saw the tech on BBC News Technology site a while back) but the images "aren't stored" apparently. It had been trialled in Heathrow for a while before El Gov't decided to roll it out.

Apparently the Yanks already have these scanners at certain major airports too.

My view on the Child Scan thing is that - If certain demographics got out of it, then there's no point in it at all.

However I do think that our civil liberties are being eroded away bit by bit. It won't make us safer...if people want to find ways around them, they will, regardless of the security measures.

My issue at the moment is: The scanners look like stand up ones... How do amputee's or disabled people get scanned if they are in wheel chairs?? (However this is off-topic so I'll shush )

[frogstamper]

Originally Posted by Tarantella

The problem or aeroplane and airport security is easily solved

Don't fly.

Put them out of business.

Yeah we could also cure AIDS by never having sex again, or football hooliganism by playing behind closed doors.
You may well be on to something here Tarantella.

[Horace]

I guess now we find out which pariah is to be given the greatest priority. Quite ironic really but I suspect terrorism will win.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by NoKnowledge

How much radiation are people exposed to by this machine. Little? What if you're a frequent flyer.

Good point, ever wonder why the nurses run behind the screen when your having x-rays or why dentists don't hold the film with their hands during x-rays anymore.