09-12-2009, 17:30
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Re: Starview
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Originally Posted by Chris
In which case your thieving freetard 'mate' has three months to consider paying for his telly instead of stealing it.
On the plus side, his doggy (sic) box will make a nice doorstop.
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There are some boxes which apparently wont go of even if nagra 3 comes into effect.
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09-12-2009, 17:33
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#17
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Re: Starview
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Originally Posted by faisalabadi
There are some boxes which apparently wont go of even if nagra 3 comes into effect. 
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No, there aren't.
ALL boxes will go down unless they're updated for card sharing.
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09-12-2009, 17:36
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Grumpy Fecker
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Re: Starview
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Originally Posted by faisalabadi
There are some boxes which apparently wont go of even if nagra 3 comes into effect. 
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NO there is not, Trust me who ever told you that is in denial. Nagra 3 has NEVER been broken anywhere in the world at this time.
I will say again
Dream on
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09-12-2009, 17:45
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cf.addict
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Re: Starview
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Originally Posted by TheDon
No, there aren't.
ALL boxes will go down unless they're updated for card sharing.
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And only a few models are capable of being so adapted. Anyhow I'm not sure that card sharing is going to be much of an issue, it's a major pain to set up, if you do set up a server yourself you really have to be paranoid about who you let in-or if you pay some third-party outfit, then you are still paying a subscription of sorts and there is always the very good chance of the server just vanishing into the ether. It's not like you can complain to the police in that case is it?
I just wonder if anyone will be daft enough to set up a CS system using their VM broadband connection!
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Originally Posted by Sirius
...... Trust me who ever told you that is in denial. ........ 
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Or they have a lock-up full of cable boxes they would really like to get shot of...
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09-12-2009, 17:49
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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Re: Starview
I love card sharing, mainly as it needs a fully paid up account to do it and as soon as the card files get posted VM then shuts the whole account down and bans the account holder for life
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10-12-2009, 18:00
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©Beam Software
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Re: Starview
No card files are ever posted, CS works purely by sharing control words in a peer to peer fashion. However, servers doing the sharing are easily traced - even easier for VM since the sharer will almost certainly be using their network and it would probably be killing two birds with one stone if it did the required investigation, knocking off the CS server and a cloned modem.
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10-12-2009, 18:06
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Re: Starview
Trust me, someone somewhere takes the info and thinks it's smart to post online.. Whether it be the daily key or the card share server IP
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10-12-2009, 18:22
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©Beam Software
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Re: Starview
Yes, CS tends to be carried out in closed circles for those reasons. Software would still require VM specific modifications , since it isn't vanilla N3, even then the most commonly available VM boxes wouldn't work with it - only 3rd party receivers. It really would be too risky and too much effort to use CS with VM but over time it might happen and VM need to be pro-active in investigating and prosecuting should that need arise.
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01-01-2010, 17:43
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cf.addict
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: High Wycombe
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Re: Starview
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Originally Posted by faisalabadi
There are some boxes which apparently wont go of even if nagra 3 comes into effect. 
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Yes i too heard of this box its made in pakistan in a city called Faisalabad
To hack N3 you need 2 people
A hacker to hack it then a another hacker to decode the layers info that is protecting the card. Then you get people saying its early days at moment for it to be hacked.USA and Spain ect had 2years to crack it
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02-01-2010, 03:09
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Location: glasgow
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Re: Starview
Great news the freeloaders will have useless set top boxes shortly.
My bill is usually £100 per month and would hate to think that people can access all channels for nothing
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02-01-2010, 08:37
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Re: Starview
all great news
but its only a matter of time b4 they get boxes back up and running
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02-01-2010, 10:13
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Trollsplatter
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Re: Starview
How much time, do you suppose? As has already been stated, N3 has been in the wild for about 2 years now, and nobody has cracked it yet. If I were freetard ****, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a quick fix.
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02-01-2010, 10:52
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Grumpy Fecker
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Re: Starview
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Originally Posted by yorkshire born
all great news
but its only a matter of time b4 they get boxes back up and running
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N3 may be broken eventually however its going to be a long time before that happens, They claimed they would have it back up and working within weeks when Ireland changed to it and they have not succeeded yet  .
Plus this is just the first move before they move to iptv according to some. That will make it even harder to hack. All in all the thieving gits have lost as can be seen by the desperate posts on there forums about using Satellite instead
To quote a post on one of those forums when asked what there options are now they cannot steal cable
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1) Subscribe to Virgin Media
2) leave cable and join Sky UK via satellite. (Can get horrendously expensive every month if you want the full monty in multiple rooms / HD - I know of folks spending over a hundred quid a month on their subscription...)
3) subscribe to one of the foreign satellite pay tv services - charges start from 100 quid a year for adult channels only up past a thousand quid a year for a full monty sub to Sky Italia or one of the nordic providers.....
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All in all well done Virgin.
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02-01-2010, 10:54
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Re: Starview
Bless em eh dude lol
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02-01-2010, 11:03
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#30
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Re: Starview
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Originally Posted by Sirius
N3 may be broken eventually however its going to be a long time before that happens, They claimed they would have it back up and working within weeks when Ireland changed to it and they have not succeeded yet  . .
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The same with D+ and that changed Dec 2007  and there's a lot more sat users than cable
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