So is 50mb now traffic managed ? - Page 2

Peter_ · 22-10-2009, 22:10

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

So the suggestion (minus /news) is sound?

Perfectly

pazor · 22-10-2009, 22:54

I think it just sounds fishy if things have been working great until last night and the way the download drops in a split second to the same speed every time 486kbps. And after chatting to the Newsdeamon online 24hr help they advised im on a unlimted connection. Just seems weird that i was having problems with rapidshare so i left went to newsgroups all has been fine and now im having problems with that.

bomber_g · 23-10-2009, 10:45

Id go with the previous suggestion of download a file bigger than 1 gb from somehere else, maybe filefront as they have game demos and things, and see if the same thing happens.

pazor · 23-10-2009, 11:13

Strange thing is no when i download a file from virgins game demo they come down at full speed.
Im just sick of problems with my VM connection, it seems everytime i think its sorted somthing else happens, it seems to me that VM are slowing my newsgroup downloads and before they was stoping my rapidshare downloads.

Mick Fisher · 23-10-2009, 11:20

There is Giganews, Astraweb and Highwinds. All other News providers are RESELLERS. They mostly resell Highwinds products which are flaky at best.

The other thing to bear in mind is that said reseller buys a block of gigs from Highwinds hoping to make a profit on it. To attract users he sells an unlimited package but fails to figure 50meg connections in his calculations. So realising too late that 50meggers are going to have an adverse effect on his expected wages packet the reseller throttles the 50meggers connection and then blames it on the 50meggers ISP.

bomber_g · 23-10-2009, 11:34

I've asked someone in the know about the specifics with traffic shaping etc on 50 meg, if I find anything interesting I'll post it.

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Apparently the project to put in place traffic shaping for specific services - eg Torrents, P2P, was canned and isn't in place on any of VM's services.

traffic shaping works by average download rates over 15 minute periods, so your quite likely to break the rules if you don't manage the traffic at your end.

also, no there isn't a traffic shaping scheme on the new UBR's (yet) so 50 meg is not being managed.

23-10-2009, 11:45

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Originally Posted by bomber_g

I've asked someone in the know about the specifics with traffic shaping etc on 50 meg, if I find anything interesting I'll post it.

---------- Post added at 11:34 ---------- Previous post was at 11:23 ----------

Apparently the project to put in place traffic shaping for specific services - eg Torrents, P2P, was canned and isn't in place on any of VM's services.

traffic shaping works by average download rates over 15 minute periods, so your quite likely to break the rules if you don't manage the traffic at your end.

also, no there isn't a traffic shaping scheme on the new UBR's (yet) so 50 meg is not being managed.

Most 20mb customers are on the new UBRs and they are managed.

I'd be careful on what information you post on the forums mate. Insider information is just that.

No offence or aggression meant.

bomber_g · 23-10-2009, 12:38

Fair enough - I guess I heard wrong =)

It's not really insider information that their not traffic shaping 50 meg yet, it's openly advertised as far as I know - I was told it's due to the amount of bandwidth available on the new routers, so I assumed the 20 meg customers would get the same . I just wanted to check and confirm stuff for the OP as he is probably getting managed in some way by his newsgroup provider, rather than Virgin

23-10-2009, 12:55

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Originally Posted by bomber_g

Fair enough - I guess I heard wrong =)

It's not really insider information that their not traffic shaping 50 meg yet, it's openly advertised as far as I know - I was told it's due to the amount of bandwidth available on the new routers, so I assumed the 20 meg customers would get the same . I just wanted to check and confirm stuff for the OP as he is probably getting managed in some way by his newsgroup provider, rather than Virgin

No, I think the idea is you cant traffic shape one lot of 20mb customers and not the other.

50mb will not doubt be managed at some point, but thats only my opinion I don't know for sure

bomber_g · 23-10-2009, 13:01

As far as I know all providers put something in their contracts with residential customers something along the lines of

'we can do what we like and you can't really complain because nothing in this world is guaranteed' lol

I guess we will all just have to wait and see what happens with the 50 meg service

Kymmy · 23-10-2009, 13:22

FYI... If you look at the STM trials you'll see again that 50Mb is STM free (just follow the location links at the bottom of the traffic management page)