Lockerbie bomber released - Page 2

Angua · 15-08-2009, 07:34

What worries me is the attitude that we have someone in prison who was convicted on the flimsiest evidence with people still baying for his blood, whilst the real purpetrators are still free.

It is as if "well we have someone convicted & that will do" which to my mind is no justice at all and accepting convictions like this as written in stone does no one any favours.

Tezcatlipoca · 15-08-2009, 14:32

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Originally Posted by Moldova

He was convicted so let him rot in our jail and we should feel the same compassion towards him as his countrymen feel towards us.

The Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission (SCCRC) found that a major miscarriage of justice may have occurred, and granted leave for al Megrahi to have a second appeal.

Have a read of these links Mr Angry posted earlier in the thread:

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion...n-1206086.html

http://www.firmmagazine.com/features..._justice,.html

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Originally Posted by Moldova

This is a slap in the face for the families of the victims.

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Originally Posted by Jim Swire, father of one of the British victims, & spokesman for UK Families Flight 103

It would be an abominable cruelty to make a man die in prison away from his family.

I do not believe he is a threat to the public.

http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co....l/article.html

Dr Swire also supported al Megrahi's second appeal, and believes that he is innocent.

Many other relatives of the British victims also have doubts over the verdict, and support al Megrahi's release on compassionate grounds (with some also believing he is innocent as Dr Swire does).

The US relatives though mostly feel the opposite, & do not support it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/au...bomber-release

Mr Angry · 15-08-2009, 16:25

Anyone wanting to acquaint themselves further with this matter should read the startling, and factual, revelations here and here.

If you're the type who thinks that your Government are "beyond reproach" (Sirius obviously does not apply) then please be advised that a stiff drink is recommended before delving too deep.

Tezcatlipoca · 15-08-2009, 18:40

Another couple of articles:

"Vital Lockerbie evidence 'was tampered with' "

"Lockerbie evidence not disclosed "

**Chris** · 20-08-2009, 13:44

He's being released. In fact he's expected to fly out of Glasgow in the next 15 minutes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...nd/8197370.stm

LondonRoad · 20-08-2009, 14:01

It must be very difficult for the families of the victims to get closure on their tragic loss. There are so many questions left unanwered.

Part of the dropped appeal was rumoured to be significant new evidence provided by a foreign power, not the USA. Surely now the excuses for not having a public enquiry must be seen to be flimsier even than the evidence that convicted the scapegoat Megrahi.

Kymmy · 20-08-2009, 14:59

Title changed to reflect that he has now been released and is on the way to the airport

iFrankie · 20-08-2009, 16:15

America won't be happy about this will they especially Hillary Clinton, they should just leave him in there

LondonRoad · 20-08-2009, 16:27

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Originally Posted by Frankie07

America won't be happy about this will they especially Hillary Clinton, they should just leave him in there

Keep a terminally ill, potentially innocent, man in jail to appease the Americans.

Why would we want to do that?

20-08-2009, 17:17

While his guilt or innocence is in doubt there should be no end to the investigation and personally until proved conclusively to be innocent he should have remained in jail. I smell politics here and therefore no chance of any truth ever being known now. As for releasing criminals on compassionate grounds it should only be done after they have shown real regret and sorrow for their crimes if they don't then show them the same compassion they showed others and keep them locked up.

Peter_ · 20-08-2009, 17:22

Nothing can be done about it now and it is just another case of Brown toadying to the likes of Gaddaffi and The Dark Lord meeting Gaddaffi's son

All that then happens is the Libyans see this and realise how spineless a country we now are.

TheDaddy · 20-08-2009, 17:26

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Originally Posted by Moldova

All that then happens is the Libyans see this and realise how spineless a country we now are.

Don't you think our real enemies in Iran and Syria already know this, they have been watching and hindering our efforts on their own doorsteps for years.

Peter_ · 20-08-2009, 17:29

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Don't you think our real enemies in Iran and Syria already know this, they have been watching and hindering our efforts on their own doorsteps for years.

They all see how week and spineless we are and that we will kiss the ass of any dictator.

20-08-2009, 17:59

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Originally Posted by soicky

Heard one guest on bbc news saying your letting ronnie biggs out so why not this guy.

Ronnie Biggs didn't kill 200+ people.

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

While his guilt or innocence is in doubt there should be no end to the investigation and personally until proved conclusively to be innocent he should have remained in jail. I smell politics here and therefore no chance of any truth ever being known now. As for releasing criminals on compassionate grounds it should only be done after they have shown real regret and sorrow for their crimes if they don't then show them the same compassion they showed others and keep them locked up.

You can smell politics alright, Â£13 billion worth of BP Oil gusing into the UK each year from Lybia.

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Originally Posted by Moldova

He was convicted so let him rot in our jail and we should feel the same compassion towards him as his countrymen feel towards us.

This is a slap in the face for the families of the victims.

And we've got innocent people in foreign jails waiting for a trial to see if they are going to be locked up for something they didn't do.

bonzoe · 20-08-2009, 19:20

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Originally Posted by Frankie07

America won't be happy about this will they especially Hillary Clinton, they should just leave him in there

Yes, the USA always think that they are right, don't they? Remember the justification for the Gulf war was WMD (none found). It was just Bush JNR wanting to complete what Bush SNR didn't.

Oh, and wasn't oil involved.

I get sick of this old colony trying to tell everyone what to do.