12-09-2008, 12:40
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Re: Bittorrent On VM
I tried bittorrent for the first time a few days ago to drag down a 3.5Gb file (not it wasn't warez, but instead Centos5.2DVD. Didn;t have a problem on etheir my routed connection or my direct connections and the 10Mb got maxed out on both
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12-09-2008, 12:59
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Re: Bittorrent On VM
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Originally Posted by Kymmy
I tried bittorrent for the first time a few days ago to drag down a 3.5Gb file (not it wasn't warez, but instead Centos5.2DVD. Didn;t have a problem on etheir my routed connection or my direct connections and the 10Mb got maxed out on both
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funny enough thats quite usual the first time you install a torrent client on a VM machine when grabbing *nix, however if you continue to seed it for a a few days (back to that crappy up/down ratio again  ) as is required to be a good torrenter in the community, watch as Vm (or whoever)track your usage and bang, you find its suddenly gone to pot, take it off for a few days or after you get a new Ip such as when they are going UBr work/reseg etc and torrent use speeds is back to a good speed as your seeing for a few hours perhaps.
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12-09-2008, 13:03
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Re: Bittorrent On VM
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no it isnt andrew, TorrentFlux is just a PHP based front end to the generic torrent client Bit Tornado package ( Requires Python 2.0+,wxPython for the GUI client)
http://www.bittornado.com/download.html
and you dont need to use it on linux (although that will be your better choice OC , a simple slax LiveCD/USB and now even PXE lan booting in the latest test CD ISO or even a VirtualBox install on one of your near idol LAN PCs will do just fine)
any PHP based self contained install +webserver will do http://www.uniformserver.com/ for instance.
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It doesnt work to well on windows  i have tried it plenty of times.
I can assure it doesnt run bittorando on *nix the program is based off it but it is not a front end well not on *nix never got it up and running properly on windows so cant comment on that
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12-09-2008, 13:05
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Re: Bittorrent On VM
andrew and anyone else thats interested have a read of this
http://www.linux.com/feature/129448 to get upto speed with .
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TorrentFlux: A BitTorrent client on a server
By Kurt Edelbrock on March 20, 2008 (6:00:00 PM)
TorrentFlux is a BitTorrent client that runs on top of a server running Apache, MySQL, and PHP.
It extends the functionality of traditional clients by operating almost entirely through a Web browser interface.
It uses the BitTornado client in the background to manage the queuing, downloading, and seeding of torrent files.
You can run TorrentFlux on your home machine and access it through a folder on a Web server. You can also install it on an external host to increase bandwidth and transfer speeds.
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12-09-2008, 13:08
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Re: Bittorrent On VM
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Originally Posted by popper
andrew and anyone else thats interested have a read of this
http://www.linux.com/feature/129448 to get upto speed with .
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TorrentFlux: A BitTorrent client on a server
By Kurt Edelbrock on March 20, 2008 (6:00:00 PM)
TorrentFlux is a BitTorrent client that runs on top of a server running Apache, MySQL, and PHP.
It extends the functionality of traditional clients by operating almost entirely through a Web browser interface.
It uses the BitTornado client in the background to manage the queuing, downloading, and seeding of torrent files.
You can run TorrentFlux on your home machine and access it through a folder on a Web server. You can also install it on an external host to increase bandwidth and transfer speeds.
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I can assure you bittorando is not running on my linux machine i said i can not comment on windows but it is DEFINITELY not running on my linux box i have checked several times
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12-09-2008, 13:13
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Re: Bittorrent On VM
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It doesnt work to well on windows  i have tried it plenty of times.
I can assure it doesnt run bit tornado on *nix the program is based off it but it is not a front end well not on *nix never got it up and running properly on windows so cant comment on that
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have you even looked at the code, it even says so right there, on the front page
http://www.torrentflux.com/
" TorrentFlux is an web-based system for managing bit torrent file transfers. It is an open source package (GPL) and developed for Linux, Unix & BSD platforms on the ubiquitous LAMP stack.
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" The transfer themselves are performed on top of the Bit Tornado package, TorrentFlux provides a web interface for these scripts and the ability to manage multiple transfers, users and even protocols (receive completed files via http) all from the web gui. Read more... "
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12-09-2008, 13:14
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Re: Bittorrent On VM
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Originally Posted by popper
have you even looked at the code, it even says so right there, on the front page
http://www.torrentflux.com/
" The transfer themselves are performed on top of the Bit Tornado package, TorrentFlux provides a web interface for these scripts and the ability to manage multiple transfers, users and even protocols (receive completed files via http) all from the web gui. Read more... "
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Yes i known what it says, but what it does is in reality different i can not explain how it does it i can only say i have not yet found the program
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12-09-2008, 13:24
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Re: Bittorrent On VM
look at it's PHP code and you will find its passing all its web http GUI input/output to and from Bit Tornado
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12-09-2008, 13:27
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Re: Bittorrent On VM
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Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23
Yes i known what it says, but what it does is in reality different i can not explain how it does it i can only say i have not yet found the program
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Opening up the .tar.gz I'd guess that the directory torrentflux_2.4/html/TF_BitTornado/ is going to be where the client itself lurks.
Three sub-directories of TF_BitTornado in the tarball, /BitTornado, /BitTornado/BT1 and /original_src
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12-09-2008, 13:37
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Re: Bittorrent On VM
there you go andrew i found the answer for you and any other interested readers for that matter.
http://forums.degreez.net/viewtopic....highlight=flux
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the only modified part of the bit tornado that torrentflux uses is a modifed btdownloadheadless.py script that uses the BitTornado 0.3.8 client.
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12-09-2008, 13:37
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Re: Bittorrent On VM
torrent flux is just a front end for BitTornado, simple as !
I am unsure weather this issue is really a dodgy underhand VM DPI style tactic of weather it is a real technical issue. I use windows vista and i have patched the limited half open TCP Ports option which dosnt solve the issue. It would be interesting to know how far these HTTP requests are getting into VM's network before they start getting lost. I wonder if its at UBR level or at the CMTS. DPI stuff is most likely to happen nearer the CMTS as far as i can imagine with the practicalities of installing the kit in the UBR's and all.
Anyone care to enligten me ? i would run some tests but im at work at the moment on a crappy BT 6meg ADSL line
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12-09-2008, 13:46
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Re: Bittorrent On VM
CMTS = Cable Modem Termination System = uBR just to mention
No idea what's going on to be honest. Will see what I can find out on a website I own. Will monitor connection end to end.
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12-09-2008, 13:48
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Re: Bittorrent On VM
impz you should setup a ssl to your VM master machine and tunnel in...
of all places this came up the other day ,go ElReg
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09...mer/page2.html
VPN security - if you want it, come and get it
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12-09-2008, 13:52
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Re: Bittorrent On VM
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Originally Posted by popper
there you go andrew i found the answer for you and any other interested readers for that matter.
http://forums.degreez.net/viewtopic....highlight=flux
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the only modified part of the bit tornado that torrentflux uses is a modifed btdownloadheadless.py script that uses the BitTornado 0.3.8 client.
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Fair enough,
But i have yet to find any istance of the bit torando running on my achine.
Anyway back to the original poster if it a stechincal support are claiming it because of hte connection running the torrents on another machines and makign sure the bandiwdth isnt 100% used will then says the problem isnt with the client machine. As the linux box use far less power in terms of cpu, memory and networking that windows box does
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12-09-2008, 14:01
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Re: Bittorrent On VM
Andrew, it's not an issue with CPU, memory or bandwidth I have checked them all on the XP machine and it was fine. This machine has 2GB of RAM and a dual core CPU, easily capable of running uTorrent.
Checking the half-open connections I've proven that there were no issues with the XP TCP/IP stack with the trace I took and likewise proved out my router.
I'll do some more detailed analysis later tonight I think to a test node that I control taking traces from both sides simultaneously.
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