Barry George did not kill Jill Dando - Page 2

Russ · 01-08-2008, 17:43

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Originally Posted by WHISTLED

Even the biggest window licker can have the brains to ditch the clothes he used to kill someone.

And cover his tracks so well?

**Hugh** · 01-08-2008, 17:44

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Originally Posted by WHISTLED

Even the biggest window licker can have the brains to ditch the clothes he used to kill someone.

Not a particularly nice turn of phrase to describe someone with learning difficulties.

slowcoach · 01-08-2008, 18:12

She was shot just after she announced that she was going to be married. The Police thought it was going to be an open and closed case, look through her diary, find a disgruntled ex, job done.
Problem was there were a hell of a lot of men friends listed in the diary, all of them well to do and able to afford a good brief, fall back on Plan B, arrest the village idiot, job done, pats on the back and promotion all round, *******s.

Derek · 01-08-2008, 18:22

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fall back on Plan B, arrest the village idiot, job done, pats on the back and promotion all round, *******s.

Or maybe after painstakingly going through the available evidence and finding one name coming up time and time again over the year long investigation they look more closely at him.
They find some forensics (no mean feat after 13 months) and evidence of deeply unhealthy obsessions with guns, celebrities and women and put that evidence to court resulting in a conviction.

Contrary to what some people think the Police don't just fit up the first person they find so they can get back out and issue speeding tickets.

I'm not 100% convinced he didn't do it.

Russ · 01-08-2008, 18:25

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Originally Posted by Derek S

I'm not 100% convinced he didn't do it.

I respect your view, and you probably see more in this than any of us. What's your view on the notion that someone as simple as he wouldn't be able to organise what happened and make good his escape?

peanut · 01-08-2008, 18:30

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Originally Posted by Russ B

I respect your view, and you probably see more in this than any of us. What's your view on the notion that someone as simple as he wouldn't be able to organise what happened and make good his escape?

You've seen the film 'The Usual Suspects'...

slowcoach · 01-08-2008, 18:32

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Originally Posted by Derek S

Or maybe after painstakingly going through the available evidence and finding one name coming up time and time again over the year long investigation they look more closely at him.
They find some forensics (no mean feat after 13 months) and evidence of deeply unhealthy obsessions with guns, celebrities and women and put that evidence to court resulting in a conviction.

Contrary to what some people think the Police don't just fit up the first person they find so they can get back out and issue speeding tickets.

I'm not 100% convinced he didn't do it.

If the police on the case don't find a murderer then they can say goodbye to any promotion prospects they may have had.

Speeding tickets can be a nice little earner, especially dealing with someone where the points will result in a ban.

Russ · 01-08-2008, 18:32

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Originally Posted by peanutkp

You've seen the film 'The Usual Suspects'...

Yes and they normally turn up in the religious threads. Back on topic?

Derek · 01-08-2008, 18:39

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Originally Posted by Russ B

What's your view on the notion that someone as simple as he wouldn't be able to organise what happened and make good his escape?

I'm not sure, on one hand there are some very intelligent people who think they can get away with it and don't.

There are also some extremely stupid people who get found out very easily.

I'm certain there are some very intelligent people, some extremely stupid people and plenty in-between who have killed people and not seen the inside of a court or prison.

From my memory of when this happened it didn't seem particularly organised at the time, someone who had thought about it would have pushed her inside the house to conceal the body for longer etc. etc.
As for making good his escape, if you live in an area and know the local rat-runs and lanes it would be easy enough for him to make his way home, from there he had a year to get rid of the gun.

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If the police on the case don't find a murderer then they can say goodbye to any promotion prospects they may have had.

Complete and utter garbage.

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Originally Posted by slowcoach

Speeding tickets can be a nice little earner, especially dealing with someone where the points will result in a ban.

WHISTLED · 01-08-2008, 18:39

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And cover his tracks so well?

What tracks were there to cover? He only had to get away without being seen or more importantly without anyone paying enough attention to remember him, and that could as easily be a fluke as criminal aptitude.

He didnt know the victim personally so there was no link, he didnt have to get rid of a body, there was no dna or fibres to be found, all he had to do was have an alibi and he didnt do that.

Russ · 01-08-2008, 18:43

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Originally Posted by WHISTLED

What tracks were there to cover?

Dead body, gun going off, local wierdo getting away looking very stressed etc?

**Maggy** · 01-08-2008, 18:45

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Originally Posted by slowcoach

If the police on the case don't find a murderer then they can say goodbye to any promotion prospects they may have had.

Speeding tickets can be a nice little earner, especially dealing with someone where the points will result in a ban.

Oh give us a break...totally off topic and rather unpleasant of you to drag your obsession into this thread about the murder of a fellow human being.

peanut · 01-08-2008, 18:46

I didn't know his IQ level until now, but I still thought they didn't have case, well not on the basis of a speck gunpower that was less than 1000th of inch and was found a year after the shooting. Now to me that can't be classed as evidence, well not enough to convict anyway.

slowcoach · 01-08-2008, 18:51

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The poor sods get some crap defence lawyer, the result is a foregone conclusion.
In the Barry George case they are now saying that technology has advanced in the intervening years and the thinking now is that he could have acquired the dust from anywhere, it was all BS at the time and they knew it. Experts, I've **** em!

WHISTLED · 01-08-2008, 18:51

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Dead body

It was on a street, im looking out of my window now, I cant see anyone..

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gun going off

Do you know what a gun sounds like? If you hear a loud crack would you go outside etc? I hear bangs all the time here I never even get off my sofa (and there have been 2 shootings within 100m of my house in the last 2 years) its usually a car or fireworks etc

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Local wierdo getting away looking very stressed etc

A complete stranger walking briskly down a road....

Even putting the bottom 2 together it was a nice area of London, you wouldnt pay any attention.