whats your opinion on this ?

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Angua

Usually only habitual criminals commit crimes in order to get caught. The rest still believe they can get away with things. If the threat of punishment actually was a deterrent our prisons would be empty but there again we have more and more laws which if broken are likely to land you in gaol.

This is it. A high likelihood of getting caught is a far more effective deterrent than tough sentences imo.

[tweetypie/8]

Originally Posted by Punky

I think you've been misinformed. Its be conclusively demonstrated before by other members that it costs more, not less, to execute criminals as opposed to life them off.

sorry cant agree with that punky,think of what it costs to feed,clothe,house,give medication,furnish them with nice color tvs,and god knows what else perks the gits get,if they are found guilty beyond doubt or better still admit to their guilt,then there is only one place for them A HOLE IN THE GROUND.

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Originally Posted by Paddy1

If I'm a rapist and facing the death penalty/life long incarceration then I may as well kill the victim to shut them up

if you were a rapist paddy you would deserve to die,remember rapists arent choosy about age groups,a child or a baby or a granny wouldnt matter to these b.......s and imo hanging is to good for them.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by v0id

We should ship criminals to an island, the other side of the world.
Oh wait, we already tried that.

that would be the island that wont let the rest of us in cos were not desirable

[punky]

Originally Posted by tweetypie/8

sorry cant agree with that punky,think of what it costs to feed,clothe,house,give medication,furnish them with nice color tvs,and god knows what else perks the gits get,if they are found guilty beyond doubt or better still admit to their guilt,then there is only one place for them A HOLE IN THE GROUND.

Unless you want summary executions though. And not even China, North Korea, Iran, etc have those.

I'm not a bleeding-heart liberal and I agree prison regimes are too generous, but I don't agree with summary executions either

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by tweetypie/8

i strongly advocate the death penalty for all murderers,terrorists,rapists,paedophiles,if they are proven to be guilty,it would free up the prisons,cut back well on the costs to keep the ******s and hopefully put off others from carrying out these foul deeds,i am sure there are a lot more you can add to this list and if you think of any feel free to do so.

Better idea.

Put the person in Jail.
In solitary confinement.
Give them just enough to eat each day to keep them alive
Give them no contact with the outside world or anyone else in the jail other than the person who brings there food.
Make sure that person does not talk to them unless necessary
No telly, Games machines, Phones NOTHING
Never ever let them out of prison.

In other words punish the *******s for the rest of there lives.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Punky

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Punky?????????

Have I missed something?

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Better idea.

Put the person in Jail.
In solitary confinement.
Give them just enough to eat each day to keep them alive
Give them no contact with the outside world or anyone else in the jail other than the person who brings there food.
Make sure that person does not talk to them unless necessary
No telly, Games machines, Phones NOTHING
Never ever let them out of prison.

In other words punish the *******s for the rest of there lives.

See, that to me makes quite a bit of sense.
It should in theory be cheaper than the current system, and be more of a deterrent.
If a mistake is made, you've not killed anyone that is actually innocent.
Ok, they are likely to be psychologically scarred, but that is easier to treat than death.

[Paddy1]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Oh thats a good policy Paddy we have light sentencing because the criminal is less likely to do major harm to a victim .

Ask the victim which they'd prefer. I'd imagine they'd rather be alive even at the cost of the perpetrator receiving a lighter sentence.

Originally Posted by Tweetypie/8

if you were a rapist paddy you would deserve to die,remember rapists arent choosy about age groups,a child or a baby or a granny wouldnt matter to these b.......s and imo hanging is to good for them.

I agree with you (given absolute 100% proof of guilt). However, my point was that if the penalty for rape is the death penalty then it would encourage a rapist/paedo/whatever to go that step further as they have NOTHING to lose by doing it.

Penalty for murder = death penalty
Penalty for rape = death penalty

Having done the rape where's the disincentive to going on to murder?

Actually rather than there being a disencentive, there is now an incentive to go on to kill as its much harder to get a conviction where the victim can't give evidence.

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by danielf

Punky?????????

Have I missed something?

I was just thinking the same thing - I think we've all missed something

[Russ]

Punky has chosen to step down from the team. Nothing to see, move along