I was undecided - went for an Elite 360

[Bluffdemon]

Originally Posted by Charlie_Bubble

Yeah, I love my PS3 too, it sits snugly unused in its box and makes a perfect stable platform for my 360!

wont be long before its broke mate lmao

[Tezcatlipoca]

Originally Posted by kryogenik

Dare I ask what anyone thinks are the current pro's and con's of the 360 in comparison to the PS3 or am I asking for trouble?
I'd go to a dedicated forum, but I like it here, and there's less text speak.

I've had a 360 since launch. Traded my Premium in for an Elite back in November.

I've had a PS3 since December.

IMO...


360 pros -

Cheaper than the PS3.

More games than the PS3.

Currently has more top-notch exclusive games than the PS3.

Xbox Live is brilliant.

Better controller.


360 cons -

The reliability.

THE NOISE.

No Blu-ray (although that doesn't matter if you don't care about HD movies).

Although the console is cheaper than the PS3, accessories are very pricey (e.g. the wireless adapter, the HDDs, wireless headset...).

You have to pay for Xbox Live "Gold" (online multiplayer).



PS3 pros -

Built-in Blu-ray Disc drive.

Built-in WiFi.

Can use any Bluetooth headset.

The HDD can be replaced by the user with any standard 2.5" SATA HDD, without voiding the warranty.

PSN is free.

Super-super-quiet.

Seems to be more reliable than the 360.


PS3 cons -

Costs more than the 360.

PSN is not as good as XBL.

Still no "in-game XMB" (would be the PS3 equivalent of using the 360's Guide to check your Friend List, send/receive messages & invites, etc., while in a game).

Delays to Home.

Crap PSN Store (well, in Europe).

SIXAXIS controller not as good as the 360 controller, & feels too cheap & light. [Although DUALSHOCK3 should be good].

Sony's treatment of Europe.

Still not enough top-notch exclusive games (although there are a few gems).



There are probably others...

Originally Posted by kryogenik

Do you know if they're *still* failing?
I mean, if it's under warranty and M$ fix it, I'm happy with that.

Yup, although it is getting better.

The current "Falcon" motherboard (check your PSU, or the wattage rating on the sticker on the cardboard box the console came in... "Falcon" = 175W, older "Zephyr" = 203W) has a few improvements on the "Zephyr" board (which was the first to have HDMI), which itself was an improvement on the "Xenon" board.[Zephyr added HDMI, plus had an additional heatpipe for the GPU. Falcon has a 65nm process CPU instead of 90nm, plus a better heatsink for the GPU].

MS continue to revise things, & the next board after "Falcon" should be even better [65nm process GPU as well as CPU].


Plus, as you said, there's always the warranty (3 years for RROD problems).

Originally Posted by kryogenik

I'm curious to know if anyone's running either console as a media player.

Yup, both.


Media-wise, before I got my PS3, my 360 was used for DVDs & HD DVDs, while my old Xbox (running XBMC) was used for divx/xvid etc.

Once the 360 got the ability to play divx/xvid, I retired my XBMC, & started using the 360 for all my media...

... 'till I got my PS3, which now also acts as my DVD player & divx/xvid etc. player (plus games & Blu-ray obviously). 360 is just used for games & HD DVDs now.

Only reason I started using my PS3 for divx/xvid & DVDs instead of the 360 was the noise... it is so much quieter (my Elite is less noisy than my old Premium, but still a jet engine compared to my PS3).


Streaming media from a PC to a 360/PS3 is very easy.

You need Windows Media Player 11 (or another UPnP Media Server such as tversity)... set it to monitor your media folders, set it to share them... & there you go. Also need UPnP enabled on your router, & in Windows.

[cimt]

Originally Posted by Charlie_Bubble

My 360 had the RROD on 14th April. I had it collected by UPS at 6pm on 15th April and it was delivered to MS at 11:30am on the 16th. It was repaired and dispatched back to me on the 19th April. So, a 3 day turnaround, not bad really!

Mine was similar... I got it back last week after having the RROD, I just go to play COD4 after only being on the 360 two or three times this week and I got the RROD again...

Now, I've never played the PS3 but I think you should of got one of them instead.

Originally Posted by Matt D

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Spot on.

Thanks Matt.

Change of plan. Going for a Premium as I can get this unit very cheap now. And today! Far as I can see, it's just white with a smaller drive. Suits me fine - I can't see me wanting to use more than 20GB.
I'll be picking up COD4 too - can't wait to get into this.
Last full size console I bought was a big PS2 years ago.

Oops - at the risk of posting to my own reply again (rather than start another thread).
Got this yesterday and went to bad at 5am after playing COD for about 7 hours straight.
Deffo very, very happy with it. I've been online shooting people today too. Very enjoyable experience, great graphics & sound. Very, very fast.
I love COD4 & the way you can look about during sequences etc. As mentioned before, all I've known for a long, long time has been a PS2 so I guess it's easy to see how blown away I was by this!
I've hard-wired it into the router and it was a doddle to get it to find my server PC and play all my music and DivX files. I can't believe I've been struggling all this time with one of those 'play anything you throw at it' DVD players that is more temperamental than a 3 year old, swapping files from the PC to a pen drive or DVDR. The usability & quality of the player is way beyond my expectations. Being able to access hundreds & hundreds of video files, choose one and go without having to use bloomin' TV out on the laptop is a joy. The on screen visuals when MP3's are playing is brilliant - my Daughter loves it. We had Salva Mea by Faithless pumping out earlier, sounded brilliant. I can take advantage of the TV's speaker set up in the lounge at last. I will almost certainly use the media player on this more than anything, I reckon. The wireless controller is a new thing to me as well, and it works great.

I'm dead chuffed anyway. I imagine a PS3 would probably done all the above just as well, but I'm glad I got this one.

[Stephen]

Knew you would be pleased with it

COD4 is one amazing game the online especially makes it worth owning.

Nice purchase.

Top five games to have (well in my opinion!!!) with your brand new console and in no particular order are:

CALL OF DUTY 4
OBLIVION
PROJECT GOTHAM RACING 4
GRAND THEFT AUTO 4
HALO3

Enjoy!

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Has anyone played both PRG4 and GT5P? Which is best? And why? This is a crucial factor in deciding between a 360 and ps3 for me.

[gc10360]

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

Has anyone played both PRG4 and GT5P? Which is best? And why? This is a crucial factor in deciding between a 360 and ps3 for me.

Yes I have both, GT5P has good graphics but thats about it, for sheer fun and adrenelin rush it has to be PGR4, ok the graphics aren't quite as good, but the speed and weather effects are amazing, if you play online, you will love it, the online racing is fantastic, unlike GT5P where you only have an option to race against people in a room on your predetermined race.

Don't get me wrong, GT5P looks fantastic and for the most part plays it too, but i found myself getting very bored quicly.

If you want a fix like GT5P then there is always forza2 on 360, its very close but with damage modelling, and then there's PGR4 on the same machine too!

You know what to do!!!

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

the fact that the 360 is so cheap in comparison plus the question of whether i will ever watch dvd on the ps3 does make the xbox a very attractive proposition. How much is the wireless adaptor thingy, as i will be using my console downstairs and my pc/router is upstairs.

does going wireless take anything away from online playability?

[gc10360]

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

the fact that the 360 is so cheap in comparison plus the question of whether i will ever watch dvd on the ps3 does make the xbox a very attractive proposition. How much is the wireless adaptor thingy, as i will be using my console downstairs and my pc/router is upstairs.

does going wireless take anything away from online playability?

its not cheap, about £50 i think, there may be cheaper ways of sorting your problem out, is there any reason your router is upstairs, cant it be setup downstairs, a wifi adapter for the pc is much cheaper.

Just a thought.....