Computer downloading for no apparent reason (was WTF are VM upto now??)
22-04-2008, 02:41
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Re: WTF are VM upto now??
does du meter show enything like u said earlier
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22-04-2008, 02:43
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Re: WTF are VM upto now??
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Originally Posted by Jonathan90
does du meter show enything like u said earlier
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Not anymore, I did all the steps I did earlier, but nothing now, this IS strange!
Maybe VM have given up trying to force PhormWare onto me now lol
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22-04-2008, 02:45
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Re: WTF are VM upto now??
lol if it happens again use that proce xp thingy only tool i know off (after 5 mins of google) that pinpoints the culprit enyway glad u got it sorted
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22-04-2008, 02:48
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Re: WTF are VM upto now??
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Originally Posted by Jonathan90
lol if it happens again use that proce xp thingy only tool i know off (after 5 mins of google) that pinpoints the culprit enyway glad u got it sorted
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lol thanks, me too!
Now maybe I can crawl into my pit now I have this sorted out
Thanks again for all your help 
Rep point on its way to you
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22-04-2008, 02:51
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Re: WTF are VM upto now??
its a long shot, but i know what lenovos are like, and judging by that log, your machine is no exception.
Lenovos come with lots of crap installed, 3rd party stuff and ibm/lenovo's own rubbish. You really could do with removing a load of that, you dont really need any of it. n Norton is just a waste of resources, but thats your choice.
If you connect with another machine does the downloading resume?
As for connections, going off your netstat, the only thing actually making a connection (apart from some sort of RPC loopback) is an MSN server, so you could try end tasking any msn messenger related stuff in your task manager and reconnecting.
Edit: okay was too slow :p
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22-04-2008, 02:54
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Re: WTF are VM upto now??
thanks very much glad to help going to bed now
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22-04-2008, 08:18
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Re: WTF are VM upto now??
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Originally Posted by refraction
its a long shot, but i know what lenovos are like, and judging by that log, your machine is no exception.
Lenovos come with lots of crap installed, 3rd party stuff and ibm/lenovo's own rubbish. You really could do with removing a load of that, you dont really need any of it. n Norton is just a waste of resources, but thats your choice.
If you connect with another machine does the downloading resume?
As for connections, going off your netstat, the only thing actually making a connection (apart from some sort of RPC loopback) is an MSN server, so you could try end tasking any msn messenger related stuff in your task manager and reconnecting.
Edit: okay was too slow :p
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Lol hardly, I've had this laptop around 9 months, and before that I've been told it's ex-SAS equipment, and came with nothing on at all!
It's actually an IBM Thinkpad T41, and them Lenovo bits are essential for me, such as the Active shock protection, easy eject (mainly for the docking station) and the system driver!
Trust me, if it aint necessary then it gets removed (hence some files in the log reported as being not found or removed)
I've been an active system builder now for the last 12 years, and the problem I posted about I have never seen it before.
I have just tested every single PC in the house (with the grateful help of a massive Ethernet lead) and it dont seem to be happening again, maybe it was just I dunno really, I am stumped lol!
But thanks also for your help, if it wasnt for helpful people like you & Johnathan, I'd be pulling my hair out!
Thanks again, rep on its way to you
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22-04-2008, 09:16
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Re: WTF are VM upto now??
As this is not a Virgin problem, I have moved it to the Networking forum.
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22-04-2008, 11:21
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Re: WTF are VM upto now??
Pleased to read that TehTech's problem seems to have vanished.
A quick way of checking which applications have active connections is to do a netstat -b.
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22-04-2008, 11:47
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Re: WTF are VM upto now??
MSN server? You havent got anybody sharing files with you through the msn shared folders have you? if they were online when you went on the files carry on transferring (I think), just something else to check anyway
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22-04-2008, 12:00
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Re: WTF are VM upto now??
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Originally Posted by Stuart C
As this is not a Virgin problem, I have moved it to the Networking forum.
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Might want the thread header changed as well then, as there appears to be no evidence that VM are "up to" anything.....
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22-04-2008, 12:02
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Re: WTF are VM upto now??
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Originally Posted by foreverwar
Might want the thread header changed as well then, as there appears to be no evidence that VM are "up to" anything..... 
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i was going to say that, its amazing how many jump to the conclusion it must be VM that causes the problems rather than something else such as hardware or software
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22-04-2008, 12:19
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Re: WTF are VM upto now??
Norton 2008 is much improved but even earlier I've not noticed much of an issue. It does like to auto update though, especially it's virus definitions and so on. This can be configured to happen in the background silent like.
In UNIX you have things like lsof, wireshark, snoop etc that you can use to check the traffic on you network. Don't know what's there in Ol' Bills offering. I do use the firewall logs though as they can help.
You could try blocking all traffic on Norton and then check the log as to what is trying to connect and see what complains.
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22-04-2008, 12:37
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Re: WTF are VM upto now??
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Originally Posted by foreverwar
Might want the thread header changed as well then, as there appears to be no evidence that VM are "up to" anything..... 
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For once, well as far as we know anyway!
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Originally Posted by CrowmanUK
MSN server? You havent got anybody sharing files with you through the msn shared folders have you? if they were online when you went on the files carry on transferring (I think), just something else to check anyway
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No, I have deleted all relevant files to this and disabled it as it is no use to me, Id rather use the normal way if I want to send file(s) to my contacts
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh
Norton 2008 is much improved but even earlier I've not noticed much of an issue. It does like to auto update though, especially it's virus definitions and so on. This can be configured to happen in the background silent like.
In UNIX you have things like lsof, wireshark, snoop etc that you can use to check the traffic on you network. Don't know what's there in Ol' Bills offering. I do use the firewall logs though as they can help.
You could try blocking all traffic on Norton and then check the log as to what is trying to connect and see what complains.
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No it was NOT norton, as I said a few posts back, I have deleted the live update program(s) as even though I set it to check ONLY once every 24 hours, it still pops up, makes my CPU usage go to 100%, hogs ALL memory (1GB) and is a pain, so I manually update, and it wasnt Windows Updates either, as this is also disabled & deleted the executables.
I did actually use Norton 360 for a while, but after numerous complaints to them, even "live chat" they couldnt answer 1 simple question : how many times does it have to update before it has the latest versions, as I was constantly updating all day, and it STILL came up with updates, so this was not trusted, and I dropped down to the only reliable version I had purchased, NIS 2005.
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22-04-2008, 13:16
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Re: WTF are VM upto now??
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Originally Posted by foreverwar
Might want the thread header changed as well then, as there appears to be no evidence that VM are "up to" anything..... 
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Changed.
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