Footballers Donating a Day's Pay for Nurses

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Originally Posted by budwieser

Err,
My wife works as a Healthcare assistant in a Mental Hospital and her basic is
£15000 per annum including the allowances for unsocial hours ie bank holidays, christmas, new years eve etc, i think she would be more than happy to have a basic salary of £24000.

Is she a nurse?

And I bet she works her backside off too. I've not heard them (HCAs) kick up a fuss though. Same with all the other unsung staff in hospitals that keep them ticking over. Lab assistants, path lab staff that work long hours for £10-11k. I've missed them moaning about the pay as well. (Maybe they should kick up a fuss instead).

[Locky]

1 day... lol...

Originally Posted by peanutkp

Is she a nurse?

And I bet she works her backside off too. I've not heard them (HCAs) kick up a fuss though. Same with all the other unsung staff in hospitals that keep them ticking over. Lab assistants, path lab staff that work long hours for £10-11k. I've missed them moaning about the pay as well. (Maybe they should kick up a fuss instead).

Not quite sure where you are coming from - just because other staff are less well paid, how does that weaken the fact that nurses are underpaid? (imho - and btw, I know quite a few nurses and doctors, and I don't know any nurses who go on three foreign holidays a year - doctors, yes; nurses, no).

That's like saying a man who has lost a leg in an accident shouldn't complain, because someone else lost two legs........

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by peanutkp

I don't hide the fact that most nurses today have lost the true meaning of caring today.

From what I have seen, I'd agree with that, for every good one, there are several whose attitude's reek of 'can't be bothered', the job just doesn't seem to be a vocation for a lot of them anymore

[etccarmageddon]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

From what I have seen, I'd agree with that, for every good one, there are several whose attitude's reek of 'can't be bothered', the job just doesn't seem to be a vocation for a lot of them anymore

absolutely. having seen the disgraceful passive abuse my family have experienced at Wythenshawe hospital from the nursing staff I fully agree. by passive abuse I mean, for example.... I visited a close family member and found their catheter bag completely full of urine on many occasions. I would notify a nurse - HOURS later they would do something about it. This same person was on a special diet - this didn't stop them time and time again giving him the wrong food and drinks until I eventually lost my cool and told them that if this resulted in the death of this person then I'd have them on a manslaughter charge.


nurses are getting a below inflation pay rise this year - something like 2.5% in 2 stages because their union doesn't have any infuence over labour. how does that motivate the good ones to do a good job?

[superbiatch]

Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

nurses are getting a below inflation pay rise this year - something like 2.5% in 2 stages because their union doesn't have any infuence over labour. how does that motivate the good ones to do a good job?

Its not just nurses, its all NHS staff who are getting a measley 2.5% payrise (although i'm not sure about Doctors as i think they are on a different pay scheme to us).

I work with nurses and it doesn't seem to be a vocation like it used to be many years ago. People did it then for the love of the job and because they cared. It seems now all they do it for is the money and then moan they don't get enough! I understand you have to be able to detach yourself because people come and go (in different ways), but sometimes they seem so heartless.

I'm sorry for your experience by the way, i have been on the receiving end myself with my own family

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Thank you for the unbiased opinions based upon your own personal experiences.

When I say nurses don't care today, I can't mean that all nurses don't care. I also DON'T mean that all nurses DO NOT deserve the money they are on now.

I'm a regular 'in patient' and I'm in hospitals slightly more often than most (under statement), I was married to a nurse, I have friends in hospital management, Doctors, Midwifery and all types of staff within the NHS (and private).

I've been on wards where I've had more care from the tea lady (much much appreciated) whilst the nurses just didn't seem to care at all as they didn't want to demean themselves.

But today's nurses aren't satisfied with what they sign up for. They also now demand respect and a pay to go with it and if they don't get it then patient care suffers for it. They think they are above the position they are in and trained for (HCAs now do what nurses used to do and without the respect they deserve).

I speak to nurses / friendsall the time and they even agree as it's an ongoing subject and because they are in a position to be heard they know they can exploit it.

And to be honest I was expected to get lynched by speaking my mind about a 'touchy' subject. Because the nursing profession 'was' once such a respected voacation that nothing bad could be said about them (Angels).