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Old 21-04-2007, 19:22   #16
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Re: Bill Gates to Blame for Virginia Tech Killings

Well the killer blamed the entire universe for his killings so why should anyone one else not also do the same.Why take any responsibility for anything when you can accuse others?

Shall we all try to start playing the BLAME GAME. Come on it's so easy to play.You just blame ANYONE that you do or do not meet for the state of your life,bank balance,sex life,education,state of the country/world etc,etc.

The first rule of this game BTW is that you NEVER,EVER lay blame at your own feet.You are always entirely innocent and blameless and are a victim of circumstance.
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Old 21-04-2007, 20:38   #17
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Re: Bill Gates to Blame for Virginia Tech Killings

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IMVHO games don't make people do stupid things, Stupid people do stupid things


Guns don't kill people - people kill people.
It's that simple - and the argument is (violent console game) age old.
I know dozens of CS players, not a one of them has ever shot anyone.
But, should one of them became unstable, would they do so if they could get hold of a gun like you can in the US?
Lord only knows.

Thank goodness we don't have the same laws here.
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Old 21-04-2007, 21:07   #18
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Re: Bill Gates to Blame for Virginia Tech Killings

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Guns don't kill people - people kill people.
It's that simple - and the argument is (violent console game) age old.
I know dozens of CS players, not a one of them has ever shot anyone.
But, should one of them became unstable, would they do so if they could get hold of a gun like you can in the US?
Lord only knows.

Thank goodness we don't have the same laws here.
But people with guns can kill many more in a shorter time
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Re: Bill Gates to Blame for Virginia Tech Killings

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i saw a report on tv that stated in virginia you can buy a rifle or shot gun at 12 years old without a permit , now can you imagine twelve year olds running around with guns,every time they loose at marbles they could blow someone away , any way ..greatest country in the world[or so they think]
That just seemed so bizarre that I couldn't believe it - until I found this.

Something I've not seen referred to here is a statement I saw from the NRA (National Rifle Association) saying that if Virginia tech didn't impose the gun-free zone on the university it wouldn't have been as bad because another student would have shot him. This Darwin Award does lend some weight to their argument!
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Old 21-04-2007, 21:52   #20
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But people with guns can kill many more in a shorter time
My point exactly mate.
I'm glad you can't get a gun as easily on these shores.
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Re: Bill Gates to Blame for Virginia Tech Killings

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Mr. Gates, your company is potentially legally liable the harm done at Virginia Tech. Your game, a killing simulator, according to the news that used to be in the Post, trained him to enjoy killing and how to kill. You knew five years ago that your on-line game, Counterstrike, so clearly figured in the massacre by a student in Erfurt that the event and the game impacted the race for Chancellor in Germany at the time!

Yet, here you are, five years after "Erfurt," still marketing Counterstrike. having done nothing to disable the server(s) for this mass murder simulator, and it looks like "Virginia Tech" is a consequence. There’s more going on in the world than Vista. Just ask the bereaved Virginia Tech families.

Mr. Gates, pull the plug on Counterstrike today, or do we need more dead to convince you? "Virginia Tech" was the 9-11 of school shootings, and it appears Microsoft is in the middle of it, in more ways than one.

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I have always been under the impression that CS was a game devised, developed and marketed by Valve (thee of half life fame LINKY ) Where Billy boy comes into it I dont know.

Just goes to show that many people especially those with a holier than thou attitude dont know what there talking about.
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Re: Bill Gates to Blame for Virginia Tech Killings

Yes valve do make CS but I think MS puts it on Xbox.

I have played alot of the violent games but I have never thought about doing anything like this for real. I have been bullied in the past, I have hated people for some of the things they have done but I would not want to go kill them all.

If it wernt for the video games they would just blame the movie's. Its just silly. People choose to do what they do not a video game or a movie.
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Re: Bill Gates to Blame for Virginia Tech Killings

Yup leave a gun on a table and it will not jump and start shooting however stick a lunatic on t'other end........
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Re: Bill Gates to Blame for Virginia Tech Killings

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It doesn't take a genius to work out the major factor of this appalling incident, the American Gun Laws.
I read if you redistribute all the guns in this country evenly you can give two to every man woman and child and have some spare.
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Re: Bill Gates to Blame for Virginia Tech Killings

This lawyer is an idiot and is totally misguided in my opinion. He is laying blame in the wrong place. He blames video games for all the problems, yet fails to see that normal people can play violent games and not go around massacring college students.

You have to be messed up already to do such a thing, and I'm sure that if the shooter had been playing "Little Fluffy Bunnies in Cute Land" he would have done the exact same thing.

I play violent games. I like them. They let me do things I can't (nor want to) do in real life. But, I don't feel the need to go around and kill people because of it.

He needs to start looking at the problems in his society that are the cause of why people do this before blaming computer games.
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It doesn't take a genius to work out the major factor of this appalling incident, the American Gun Laws.
Whereas we in the UK with pretty rigid gun laws never see any shootings?

Sun Tzu in the book 'the art of war' circa 2000bc stated 'if you outlaw spears, only outlaws will carry spears'
Firearms are a genie you can't put back in the box, to outlaw them means criminals will carry them, and be happier knowing that the law abiding people they wish to threaten with them, aren't capable of fighting back on a level playing field.
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Re: Bill Gates to Blame for Virginia Tech Killings

Yeah I agree with Nikon. If you ban guns only people who care about the law will destory them.
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Re: Bill Gates to Blame for Virginia Tech Killings

Looking at some of the some of the students I teach I can only say I'm thankful we don't have a right to bear arms policy like the US.
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Looking at some of the some of the students I teach I can only say I'm thankful we don't have a right to bear arms policy like the US.
the most misquoted amendment.
The Second Amendment.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. "
The point of this amendment not being an individuals right, but looking back to the good ol frontier times and the overthrowing of the readcoats, the fact that if a government bans the right to bear arms it them makes it easier for a government to move to dictatorship using the governments backed military power. The right to bear arms enables the people to rise up against that threat and use similar weaponary power.
I wonder why when the government has nuclear and other far more powerful weaponary the NRA has not pushed for the militia to be able to own similar.

I think I am gonna get me one of those decommisioned Jaguars off the UK government, some AMRAMs and SCUDs, maybe some Bunker Busters so that if the government turns against us we can fight back.
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Re: Bill Gates to Blame for Virginia Tech Killings

I'm gonna sue the children of J.R.R.Tolkien as I have the urge to buy a sword and stab people to death.
Sad sad bunnies.
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