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Old 22-02-2007, 21:12   #16
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Re: BT, UKOnline or BE ? aiming for the best on-line gaming ping
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The absolute best for UKOnline are the Billion routers, but they are a touch expensive. Otherwise pretty much any router is fine, Netgear GT is ok

OK .. there we go, I was connected LIVE today, I've connected everything, router is online, I can even check how quick my connection is - around 7 to 7,3 Mbit (checked just few minutes ago) ... Unfortunatelly i had to come back here with my ntl cable because ... I can not connect to the internet ..

I have my router configuration access, everything is ok, i can ping my router, router do see my 8Mbit connection ... but I can't connect ... why?

I've entered my login and pass from UKOnline

I bought Billion 7300 Router/modem 4 port switch following Your advice - now what is the problem?

I even called UKOnline tech support but the one I've spoken to didn't know why it's not working, and couldn't help me with billion router 'cause "we do not sell these with our broadband so it's not standard"
and told me to contact with billion support ... LOL?

Can anyone tell me what can be the problem?
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Old 22-02-2007, 22:47   #17
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Re: BT, UKOnline or BE ? aiming for the best on-line gaming ping
hmm, must say I've never heard of "Billion" but there are a number of IT kit manufacturers out there.

Unfortunately the tech support bods are, like most ISPs not going to "support" the kit you've got. It's not them being awkward, more that there are so many variations out there that they can't cover everything.

As we are primarily a cable user support group, it might well be that you need to seek specific help from ADSL users. Do Billion have a support forum?
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Old 22-02-2007, 23:06   #18
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Re: BT, UKOnline or BE ? aiming for the best on-line gaming ping
update:

UKOnline gave me a wrong login ;] i mean they gave me one with CAPITALS when all i had to do was log in with only small letters ...

BTW Rob - if anyone will have any issues with Billion Modems/Routers I recommend this link
http://uk.billion.com/

This router/modem/switch/firewall is a really nice piece of a gear and not expensive as well - my 8Mbit UKOnline + Billion BiPac7300 = rox

just testing everything atm, pinging almoust every UK server below 10ms,
my on-line gaming got into another dimension .. I finally know what is "nlg - no lag gaming" I'm not even connected to the main socket

Speed Tests atm around 5800kbit Download/ 680 Kbit Upload / distance - around 750m (1300m line length) from my exchange

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Re: BT, UKOnline or BE ? aiming for the best on-line gaming ping
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Re: BT, UKOnline or BE ? aiming for the best on-line gaming ping
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update:

UKOnline gave me a wrong login ;] i mean they gave me one with CAPITALS when all i had to do was log in with only small letters ...

BTW Rob - if anyone will have any issues with Billion Modems/Routers I recommend this link
http://uk.billion.com/

This router/modem/switch/firewall is a really nice piece of a gear and not expensive as well - my 8Mbit UKOnline + Billion BiPac7300 = rox

just testing everything atm, pinging almoust every UK server below 10ms,
my on-line gaming got into another dimension .. I finally know what is "nlg - no lag gaming" I'm not even connected to the main socket

Speed Tests atm around 5800kbit Download/ 680 Kbit Upload / distance - around 750m (1300m line length) from my exchange

Very Happy
Great - glad it worked out for you
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Old 15-03-2007, 16:02   #21
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Re: BT, UKOnline or BE ? aiming for the best on-line gaming ping
BT...I play CS, can only get 1mb due to the distance from the exchange but my ping is rarely above 20
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Old 15-03-2007, 17:17   #22
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Re: BT, UKOnline or BE ? aiming for the best on-line gaming ping
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BT...I play CS, can only get 1mb due to the distance from the exchange but my ping is rarely above 20
ive just asked bt for interleaving to be disabled on my line, so once they do it i'll have to see what difference that makes.
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Old 16-03-2007, 16:32   #23
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Re: BT, UKOnline or BE ? aiming for the best on-line gaming ping
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Heres the ping to the same server from my BT broadband connection, connection, router is a D-link G624t (running routertech firmware) and i'm on wireless from a macbook from osx

Its worth noting i have byte interleaving turned ON my line. Apparently you can request it be turned off to decrease ping.

dragons-computer:~ Dragon$ ping www.bbc.net.uk
PING www.bbc.net.uk (212.58.227.74): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 212.58.227.74: icmp_seq=0 ttl=241 time=27.168 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.227.74: icmp_seq=1 ttl=241 time=51.355 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.227.74: icmp_seq=2 ttl=241 time=74.220 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.227.74: icmp_seq=3 ttl=241 time=98.136 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.227.74: icmp_seq=4 ttl=241 time=20.281 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.227.74: icmp_seq=5 ttl=241 time=21.229 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.227.74: icmp_seq=6 ttl=241 time=20.855 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.227.74: icmp_seq=7 ttl=241 time=20.420 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.227.74: icmp_seq=8 ttl=241 time=20.491 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.227.74: icmp_seq=9 ttl=241 time=20.286 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.227.74: icmp_seq=10 ttl=241 time=20.350 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.227.74: icmp_seq=11 ttl=241 time=21.166 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.227.74: icmp_seq=12 ttl=241 time=20.337 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.227.74: icmp_seq=13 ttl=241 time=21.709 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.227.74: icmp_seq=14 ttl=241 time=21.199 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.227.74: icmp_seq=15 ttl=241 time=21.052 ms
^C
--- www.bbc.net.uk ping statistics ---
16 packets transmitted, 16 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 20.281/31.266/98.136/22.443 ms
dragons-computer:~ Dragon$



Traceroute has started ...

traceroute to www.bbc.net.uk (212.58.227.74), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 dragon.home (192.168.1.1) 3.394 ms 1.326 ms 2.020 ms
2 217.47.206.250 (217.47.206.250) 19.248 ms 18.158 ms 17.561 ms
3 217.47.206.161 (217.47.206.161) 17.978 ms 16.949 ms 17.927 ms
4 217.41.169.9 (217.41.169.9) 18.809 ms 17.965 ms 17.695 ms
5 217.41.169.66 (217.41.169.66) 18.616 ms 17.755 ms 19.268 ms
6 217.41.169.134 (217.41.169.134) 21.214 ms 18.442 ms 18.276 ms
7 217.41.169.54 (217.41.169.54) 19.116 ms 19.125 ms 18.405 ms
8 217.32.99.114 (217.32.99.114) 17.567 ms 18.622 ms 17.789 ms
9 core1-pos9-2.reading.ukcore.bt.net (194.72.0.245) 17.863 ms 18.070 ms 17.419 ms
10 core1-pos7-0.ilford.ukcore.bt.net (62.6.201.185) 22.309 ms 36.052 ms 20.098 ms
11 core1-pos9-0-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net (62.6.201.118) 20.461 ms 20.238 ms 20.408 ms
12 194.74.65.6 (194.74.65.6) 25.980 ms 21.572 ms 23.785 ms
13 212.58.238.129 (212.58.238.129) 20.365 ms 21.110 ms 19.419 ms
14 212.58.238.141 (212.58.238.141) 19.315 ms 20.488 ms 19.416 ms
15 www.bbc.net.uk (212.58.227.74) 20.573 ms 19.874 ms 21.153 ms
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ive just asked bt for interleaving to be disabled on my line, so once they do it i'll have to see what difference that makes.

C:\Users\Dragon>ping -t 212.58.227.74

pinged the same ip as last time now interleaving is off on my line... makes a difference

Pinging 212.58.227.74 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.58.227.74: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=242
Reply from 212.58.227.74: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=242
Reply from 212.58.227.74: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=242
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Old 16-03-2007, 18:19   #24
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Re: BT, UKOnline or BE ? aiming for the best on-line gaming ping
This is mine with interleaving off.

Pinging 212.58.227.74 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.58.227.74: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=247
Reply from 212.58.227.74: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=247
Reply from 212.58.227.74: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=247
Reply from 212.58.227.74: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=247
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still slightly faster than me then

Btw was you using a wired or wireless connection to your router.

Im connected via 802.11G wireless.
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still slightly faster than me then

Btw was you using a wired or wireless connection to your router.

Im connected via 802.11G wireless.

Wired
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remember for gaming wired is always better than wireless lol
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Re: BT, UKOnline or BE ? aiming for the best on-line gaming ping
My connection currently has average pings of 40ms to BBC.net.uk.

And that's with Fast Path instead of Interleaving.

(this is actually fast compared to what it was like before lol).


ISP = Sky BB (which uses Easynet's LLU just like it's fellow family member UK Online).


My line isn't so great...
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This is mine with interleaving off.

Pinging 212.58.227.74 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.58.227.74: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=247
Reply from 212.58.227.74: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=247
Reply from 212.58.227.74: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=247
Reply from 212.58.227.74: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=247
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Twice as fast as my cable

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Pinging 212.58.227.74 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.58.227.74: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=238
Reply from 212.58.227.74: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=238
Reply from 212.58.227.74: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=238
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Ping statistics for 212.58.227.74:
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Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
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Re: BT, UKOnline or BE ? aiming for the best on-line gaming ping
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remember for gaming wired is always better than wireless lol
yes i know... was wandering if homeplug would be any better than wireless.

since i cant really drill holes in the floor to run some cat5 in (not my house)
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