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Old 10-12-2006, 15:35   #16
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Re: NTL v Sky v Talktalk

Better not let the pikeys know where that exchange is lol
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Old 10-12-2006, 15:36   #17
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Better not let the pikeys know where that exchange is lol



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Re: NTL v Sky v Talktalk

Ganging up on Be*?

Bill C: how do you equate "on top of the exchange" with < 2.4km?

To me , it's few meters!

When and where, did Be* say that the ADSL speed will NOT drop when the distance is >2.4?
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Old 10-12-2006, 16:05   #19
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Ganging up on Be*?

Bill C: how do you equate "on top of the exchange" with < 2.4km?

To me , it's few meters!

When and where, did Be* say that the ADSL speed will NOT drop when the distance is >2.4?
when you look where some exchanges are in comparison to the customers then you see why i talk about distance.

If you go by distance i SHOULD get good speed but when i was on UKONLINE i did not. My friend who is on ADSL2+ 2 streets away from me is approximately 2.9 kms from the exchange and only gets 8.9 meg on his connection. I dare say that is because the main trunk cables could be rather old here. That might account for the atrocious phone line i had from BT, But that's for another thread

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He he the usual cable fan boy answer . On top of the exchange

I don't live on top of the exchange and i get close to full speeds on ADSL2+. Its about time cable fan boys realised this
i was not the one getting mouthy, If you are going to talk the talk you should be able to walk the walk as well when it comes to getting mouthy

So a question for BE* how close to the exchange are you. you can get the info HERE

you will get data like this

BT ADSL broadband availability
You are connected to the Warrington telephone exchange.

ADSL is available in your area
Your exchange is also enabled for ADSL Max services
According to BT Wholesale, your line should be able to support a 5Mbps or greater ADSL connection via ADSL Max.

Standard ADSL RAG results:
You can receive 2Mbps ADSL
You can receive 1Mbps ADSL
You can receive 512Kbps ADSL
You can receive 256Kbps ADSL

You are approximately 1.53km from the exchange (straight line distance).

Your BT ADSL code is:
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Re: NTL v Sky v Talktalk

Woot 300m away from an exchange!

BT ADSL broadband availability
You are connected to the Whitefield telephone exchange.

ADSL is available in your area
Your exchange is also enabled for ADSL Max services

According to BT Wholesale, your line should be able to support a 6.5Mbps or greater ADSL connection via ADSL Max.

Standard ADSL RAG results:
You can receive 2Mbps ADSL
You can receive 1Mbps ADSL
You can receive 512Kbps ADSL
You can receive 256Kbps ADSL

You are approximately 311 metres from the exchange (straight line distance).
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Re: NTL v Sky v Talktalk

As the crow flies but Telephone lines follow the roads more than crow flight paths
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Re: NTL v Sky v Talktalk

Well the exchange literally is at the top of my road, near enough exact straight line.
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Re: NTL v Sky v Talktalk

How recently was your street built? If it's a newish development you stand a good chance of getting fullish speeds.
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And its still what is happening now, Or do you know something everyone else that works on ADSL and installs the equipment in the exchanges does not. I have worked both on ADSL and on cable, its still the same as it was in 2001. IF you want good speeds you HAVE to be within 2.4 km of the Exchange, You have to be on copper not aluminium. As you go further from the exchange the attenuation of the line increases therefor reducing the speed capability of the line.

If you are so sure of what you are saying then produce the evidence that goes against everything stated by the adsl manufacturers.

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Produce the evidence to support you rather childish statements.

If you cannot i suggest you growup before taking on the grownups

Some more evidence
Since when is 2.4km on top of the exchange?

And straight line distance means nothing. Its the line length thats the factor and no line takes a direct line from the house to the exchange

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How recently was your street built? If it's a newish development you stand a good chance of getting fullish speeds.

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Since when is 2.4km on top of the exchange?

And straight line distance means nothing. Its the line length thats the factor and no line takes a direct line from the house to the exchange

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This is what i said

IF you want good speeds you HAVE to be within 2.4 km of the Exchange, When did I that's ME Bill C say ontop of the exchange ? Please show me where
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Re: NTL v Sky v Talktalk

Was actually speaking to the poster above my post but your street is about as old as some round here. Unless BT re-ran the wires to your home recently it's probably the run between your house and the exchange causing the drop you were talking of in your other thread. Even rain can cause problems with ADSL if the telephone lines are run above ground
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This is what i said

IF you want good speeds you HAVE to be within 2.4 km of the Exchange, When did I that's ME Bill C say ontop of the exchange ?
But its still not on top of the exchange is it?
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But its still not on top of the exchange is it?
You did not answer my question ?

so i will repeat for you.

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IF you want good speeds you HAVE to be within 2.4 km of the Exchange, When did I that's ME Bill C say ontop of the exchange ? Please show me where
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You did not answer my question ?

so i will repeat for you.
I never claimed you did. I said the poster who said it was posting tosh. You then said i was wrong and produced the 2.4km figure which in return I said its still not on top of the exchange is it

Not once did I claim you had said that
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But its still not on top of the exchange is it?
you are implying by this statement that i did.

The point i am getting at is that if you go beyond 2.4 or so Km's your speed will drop very fast indeed. So how far are you from the exchange ?
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