Ubuntu

[punky]

Originally Posted by Tristan

Ubuntu is a very very good Linux distro, probably the best there is for newcomers.

The only downside is that installation is a little tricky, as it's text-based and not too user friendly. It's still no more difficult than installing Windows, though -- just nowhere near as good as Red Hat's system.

Text based? You can't run Gnome or KDE on it? Or just it isn't included by default?

[nibbles]

Originally Posted by punky

Text based? You can't run Gnome or KDE on it? Or just it isn't included by default?

gnome is the standard desktop, the actual install itself doesn't have as many pretty pictures requires a little bit of thought might be a problem for your mother or grandma

[Gareth]

Originally Posted by Electrolyte

That's ironic zingle, I did the same thing about 2-3 weeks ago and they arrived

That's not ironic, that's a coincidence.

Don't mean to be pedantic, but I hate to see people say something's ironic when they clearly have no concept of what irony is. I'm not the only one that feels this way - here's Ed Byrne's take on it...

Originally Posted by Ed Byrne

No, thereââ‚ƚ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s nothing ironic about being stuck in a traffic jam when youââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢re late for something. Unless youââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢re a town planner. If you were a town planner and you were on your way to a seminar of town planners at which you were giving a talk on how you solved the problem of traffic congestion in your area, couldnââ‚Ã⠀šÃ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t get to it because you were stuck in a traffic jam, thatââ‚ ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢d be well ironic: †œIâà ¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€Š¾Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢m sorry Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢m late, youââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢ll never guess.ââ‚Ã⠀šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ÂÂ� †œRain on your wedding dayââ‚Âà ‚¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ÂÂ�ââà ƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã¢â‚¬ÆšÃ‚Â�only if marrying a weatherman and he set the date. I could go on and I will. A no-smoking sign on your cigarette break, thatââ‚ ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s inconsiderate office management. A no-smoking sign in a cigarette factoryââ‚à ‚¬Ã¢â‚¬ÂÂÂ�irony. Itââ‚ ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s not a difficult concept Alanis. Itââ‚ ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s very rare you see a ironic no-smoking sign, although if you ever see one of those that say thank-you for not smoking and you are: fairly ironic.

this article offers a good explanation on what irony is about.
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Originally Posted by punky

Text based? You can't run Gnome or KDE on it? Or just it isn't included by default?

Tristan was just referring to the installation, which is kinda reminiscent of a Win 3.11 installation. Once installed (which is really no tricker than any Windows installation) Ubuntu runs Gnome by default. A KDE version exists, and is called Kubuntu (http://www.kubuntu.org/)

[ikthius]

Originally Posted by Gareth

Don't mean to be pedantic, but I hate to see people say something's ironic when they clearly have no concept of what irony is.

It's like rain on your wedding day.
it's a free ride when you've already paid.
etc
etc



ik

very good but neither of them are ironic IMO

Irony to me is if i say wouldnt it be good if George w knocked on my door and the next second he did

Thats irony

or its when someone likes getting rid of creases in clothes they feel Irony

[ikthius]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

very good but neither of them are ironic IMO

Irony to me is if i say wouldnt it be good if George w knocked on my door and the next second he did

Thats irony

or its when someone likes getting rid of creases in clothes they feel Irony

I disagree, you are only stating coincidence, nothing more.

I agree with this: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ironic

In 1969 Susie moved from Ithaca to California where she met her husband-to-be, who, ironically, also came from upstate New York. Some Panelists noted that this particular usage might be acceptable if Susie had in fact moved to California in order to find a husband, in which case the story could be taken as exemplifying the folly of supposing that we can know what fate has in store for us

"it was ironical that the well-planned scheme failed so completely"

sorry for taking this topic

ik

Originally Posted by ikthius

I disagree, you are only stating coincidence, nothing more.

I agree with this: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ironic



sorry for taking this topic

ik

Would it be ironic if i said I knew you were gonna say that???

[ikthius]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

Would it be ironic if i said I knew you were gonna say that???

ik

[Gareth]

Anyway, dragging this thread back on topic by its feet (wish I'd kept my big mouth shut now )... er, when d'you think you'll get around to installing it Zing? I've been thinking about changing my Mandrake installation - not that there's anything wrong with Mandy, I just feel like trying something else. Was gonna go down the Gentoo route, but thought I'd give Ubunt a whirl cause I've heard so many people saying they like it.

I intend to build a machine out of some spares I have lying around and give it a bash this week,Never had any success before with linux but ive always tried to install it in virtual machine.With a bit of luck ill get better results on a dedicated machine

[nibbles]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

I intend to build a machine out of some spares I have lying around and give it a bash this week,Never had any success before with linux but ive always tried to install it in virtual machine.With a bit of luck ill get better results on a dedicated machine

linux has progressed a hell of alot in recent years unless u have an ati card most linux distros install just as easily if not easier than windows never tried it on a vm though!

dagnamit I am an ATI fanboy

[Gareth]

Well, Mandy is being dumped right now, so gimme 30 mins and I'll let you knwo how it gets on with my Radeon 9800 Pro

[nibbles]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

dagnamit I am an ATI fanboy

oh dear an ati eh..the proprietry drivers for linux are no where near as good, as easy to install or supported as well as nvidia's that being said they are movin along now but at a crawl compared to nvidia they'll probably get there sometime but at the moment just about work and they take a fair bit of kicking to get installed and don't support all the features

[Gareth]

Well, it installed painlessly enough, and was quick. It's picked up my 9800 Pro but I think this is only the minimum config... works OK for everyday use, but I wouldn't fancy trying RtCW (which I'm gonna install later) with this.

Seems to have pre-installed everything that a newcomer would want (even Firefox ) but I did think that Mandy's installation was a bit easier and a lot prettier.

Right, off to try a few things out, and maybe have a go at getting ATI's own drivers up and running.