Let the capping commence.

Originally posted by Defiant
Let NTL put their BB price's up oh mouthy one. Lets just see what happens shall we. Their's some excellent deals out their now for BB and some customers just need a little push by NTL like me

And a lot of customers have no choice other than NTL for ANY kind of BB.

[orangebird]

Originally posted by Defiant
Let NTL put their BB price's up oh mouthy one. Lets just see what happens shall we. Their's some excellent deals out their now for BB and some customers just need a little push by NTL like me

Is there any need to be calling people 'o mouthy one'? All they're doing is posting their own views - leave it out.

Originally posted by orangebird
Is there any need to be calling people 'o mouthy one'? All they're doing is posting their own views - leave it out.

And some want a better service without price increase's being mentioned. I'd love 256 upload speeds for gaming like most others have

[Dooby]

Originally posted by Defiant
And some want a better service without price increase's being mentioned. I'd love 256 upload speeds for gaming like most others have

most others on cable modems and docsis networks is that or most others on ADSL.... there are reasons for the upstream ratio that have been talked about...

oh, and I want a biggerhouse, and a faster car and a big boat and an aeroplane ... but i dont want to have to pay for it...

[El Diablo]

Originally posted by Defiant
Let NTL put their BB price's up oh mouthy one. Lets just see what happens shall we. Their's some excellent deals out their now for BB and some customers just need a little push by NTL like me

Errr... and of course, it's only NTL that will be looking to do this then?? I'm not saying they should put their prices up, just that heavy users should pay for their extensive usage and for the amount of data that they are transferring accross the network.

This could equally equate to low usage users receiving !GOSH! a discount if they use below a certain amount.

Comparing again to dial-up - you PAY for the amount of time that you are connected via dial-up - essentially therefore paying for <= 56kbs for the duration of your connection. Since broadband is always on, they've never bothered to police the amount it is used... although hopefully they will now, since the bandwidth is becoming saturated by P2P users.

So you think you're getting a bad deal on broadband? £25pm? Okay, compare that again to ye olde days of dial-up - ~£15pm [0] would give you unlimited access via dial-up to an ISP of your choosing... errr... see what I'm getting at? An extra £10pm, your speed is increased ~10 fold and your connection is always on... go figure...

This isn't an issue that's soley affecting NTL, you'll find the same with all the others. It's kinda like... oh, this is a crap, so all the passengers get off the no. 47 bus and jump directly on the 52... whoopppeeee.... a great amount of difference that is going to make.

<pedant> "Their" means his or hers, "There" refers to at or in... I think you meant there's, as in there is </pedant>



[0] Provided of course that you're using a reliable pre-paid dial-up, no disconnect after an hour, no advertising, decent support etc...

[Lord Nikon]

The problem is now, and always will be that capping for congestion purposes will arbitrarily INCREASE congestion.

I saw on .com a long time back a post that explains why.
Essentially it was that when you cap for congestion, the congestion occurs in peak hours anyway.

If you try to cap this, then people who were leaving large downloads running 24/7 and exceeded the cap, start using the downloads only when they are around, i.e. peak hours. Therefore the usage will INCREASE during the hours when the system is most congested. Even if people are not exceeding the cap.

Originally posted by El Diablo

So you think you're getting a bad deal on broadband? £25pm? Okay, compare that again to ye olde days of dial-up - ~£15pm [0] would give you unlimited access via dial-up to an ISP of your choosing... errr... see what I'm getting at? An extra £10pm, your speed is increased ~10 fold and your connection is always on... go figure...

If you check out the threads on here then you would know the answer to that question

Originally posted by El Diablo
<pedant> "Their" means his or hers, "There" refers to at or in... I think you meant there's, as in there is </pedant>

I've been itching to post that for weeks

[Undisputedtruth]

Originally Posted by orangebird

Can we not start another employee v customer argument? I don't think it's very fair or reasonable to assume that just because someone agrees with the cap that they are an ntl employee.....


Wether they are or not shouldn't matter - it's a customer view on the cap and the way other use bb, nothing else.

I'm afraid I have to agree with Defiant. It is all about "conflict of interest". If they are not willing to disclose the fact they are NTL employees then we can only disregard their views due to "conflict of interest". Whether they use the service as a customer is immaterial. However, I can see no reason why they should not speak, even though they are NTL employees.

[erol]

Originally Posted by Dooby

oh, and I want a biggerhouse, and a faster car and a big boat and an aeroplane ... but i dont want to have to pay for it...

He did not say he did not want to pay for it, just that he did not want to pay MORE for it.

the cost of producing houses, cars and boats is not halving every 12 months. If it was then yes I would expect to be able to buy a house twice the size of my current one at the same price as my current one, every year or so. There is nothing unreasonable about that at all.

The cost of moving data around IS halving every 12 months or so, just like PC's have only a little faster in the case of data.

Get it ?

[erol]

Originally Posted by timewarrior2001

And a lot of customers have no choice other than NTL for ANY kind of BB.

There is always choice

http://www.silicon.com/news/500016/1...html?rolling=1

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Undisputedtruth

I'm afraid I have to agree with Defiant. It is all about "conflict of interest". If they are not willing to disclose the fact they are NTL employees then we can only disregard their views due to "conflict of interest". Whether they use the service as a customer is immaterial. However, I can see no reason why they should not speak, even though they are NTL employees.

You are making an assumption that all NTL employees are pro NTL.

Also, why should NTL employees' opinions be disregarded, because they don't necessarily agree with you? Remember an NTL employee who is also a customer can also get crap service. How many NTL employees live in ex-videotron areas? Don't their opinions count?

Originally Posted by scastle

Also, why should NTL employees' opinions be disregarded, because they don't necessarily agree with you? Remember an NTL employee who is also a customer can also get crap service. How many NTL employees live in ex-videotron areas? Don't their opinions count?

Perhaps ntl staff should all be forced to wear a sew-on ntl logo on their jackets so we can easily spot them and learn to deride their opinions ... after all, their views aren't worth anything are they?