France to tighten immigration controls

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by Paul

It's not just the young that make that mistake

very true , may i assume you are talking about the leaders of this country , or were you on about something else

Calm down and play nice people.

[Gareth]

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

very true , may i assume you are talking about the leaders of this country , or were you on about something else

Actually, he was on about Paul M! Oops

[Paul K]

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

very true , may i assume you are talking about the leaders of this country , or were you on about something else

Let's just say there are a few people on the forum behaving in a slightly less than adult fashion tonight I'm thinking of checking to see if the moon is full since we seem to be suffering a rash of flame fests tonight

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by Paul M

Calm down and play nice people.

i am

Originally Posted by Paul

Let's just say there are a few people on the forum behaving in a slightly less than adult fashion tonight I'm thinking of checking to see if the moon is full since we seem to be suffering a rash of flame fests tonight

sorry

[Paul K]

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

i am

sorry

There's actually another thread that I had in mind more than this one

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by Paul

There's actually another thread that I had in mind more than this one

ok i rescind the , and replace it with

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

ok then , how about we get rid of young immature ppl who think they know it all and know nothing , dont you think we are the dumping ground of europe !!! , explain if you will something to me , are france , germany , spain etc etc unsafe countries ??? , i think not , then why do we end up taking every other countries refugees ??? , i will answer you , we / this country are a soft touch , pure and simple , yourself out of that one , over to you

First of all most asylum seekers are rejected. Many of these due to the fact they didnt land in the first safe country or origin. Second of all, shooting immigrants as they come in is so stupid it doesnt require any counter-arguement. My previous point was that just because some country would do it to us isnt a valid reason

[Halcyon]

Putting their imigration camp right up near Calais was a way of France saying "Right, look where you are, England is just round the corner".
Its about time they were sorting things out.

But I don't think its a problem that is solely the responsability of France. England needs tighter measures too. At the moment we are still letting in floods of people.

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by Damien

First of all most asylum seekers are rejected. Many of these due to the fact they didnt land in the first safe country or origin. Second of all, shooting immigrants as they come in is so stupid it doesnt require any counter-arguement. My previous point was that just because some country would do it to us isnt a valid reason

ok then , prove it , supply a link to the fact , ok so the shooting bit was maybe out of order till you consider that it may happen if you tried to get into a country that didnt want you there , again , over to you

Yes. But that doesnt justify it at all

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by Damien

Yes. But that doesnt justify it at all

dont justify what ???? . as i see it , a genuine political immigrant who is in fear of his life and his families life is welcome here , an economic migrant is not , i pay my taxes the same as you , dont you think somehting shouold be done about it

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

dont justify what ???? . as i see it , a genuine political immigrant who is in fear of his life and his families life is welcome here , an economic migrant is not , i pay my taxes the same as you , dont you think somehting shouold be done about it

Yes, because disagreeing that immigrants should be shot on site automatically means that I think nothing should be done. Thoughout this whole topic all i have said is that shooting them on site is extreme.

As for immigration something needs to be done but limits on immigration would restrict businesses. The head of the CBI has said that for every 1% of immigration theres a 1.5% jump in wealth. Also you cannot put a limit of genuine asylum seekers. The only area that needs to be cracked down is illegal immigration, getting though the tunnel is now extremely difficult but buy its very nature illegal immigration is harder to track because they disappear from the system
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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

dont justify what ???? . as i see it , a genuine political immigrant who is in fear of his life and his families life is welcome here , an economic migrant is not , i pay my taxes the same as you , dont you think somehting shouold be done about it

That depends, we need skilled economic migrants. Not unskilled. Those who are unskilled and come from outside the EU cannot get a work permit easily, if at all.

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by Damien

That depends, we need skilled economic migrants. Not unskilled. Those who are unskilled and come from outside the EU cannot get a work permit easily, if at all.

and that puts more of a burden on the country , dont want them dont need them , nuff said , why should we need skilled economic migrants ???? , we should be training our own ppl up instead of relying on other countries

Ah, I see the CF obsession with immigration has returned. Allie your comments have once again gone way beyond the pale. Grow up. Not sure how you're going to identify those immigrants you want to shoot as the majority coming to the UK do so from within the EU. Unless by immigrant you mean people of colour who would indeed make easily identifiable targets.

If people really want to have a serious debate about immigration I suggest posting facts rather than often disturbing prejudice, thinly veiled as opinion.