03-05-2005, 14:48
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Re: Who do you think will win the election?
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I am not complaining about that and I know what a hung parliament is. It will be hard for things to get done and chances are a new election would be called
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Not really, Labour would be the biggest party and so set up a government. They would then have to create policies that will get the backing of other parties (Local Income Tax, for example, would get the LibDem's backing) and let parliament decide rather than having Bliar decide for us!
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03-05-2005, 14:55
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Re: Who do you think will win the election?
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Not really, Labour would be the biggest party and so set up a government. They would then have to create policies that will get the backing of other parties (Local Income Tax, for example would get the LibDem's backing) and let parliament decide rather than haveing Bliar decide for us!
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Agreed ... hung parliaments can work. The interesting thing at Westminster would be whether Labour went for a coalition, as it has in Scotland with the Lib Dems, or not. Charles Kennedy has not sounded enthusiastic about the idea of 'propping up' a failed Labour government but then after the Scottish Parliament was set up, the Lib Dems were accused of selling out on their principles at the first sniff of power. We will only get to see whether the Lib Dems nationally prize power or principles more highly if there is a hung parliament, because Labour is only going to look to them for a coalition.
Let's not forget that Parliament is supposed to be there to examine, critcise, and amend Bills, and only to enact them if, after all consideration, it thinks they are a good idea. It's not meant to be a rubber stamp factory for the Government of the day. A hung parliament might redress that balance a little.
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03-05-2005, 15:24
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Re: Who do you think will win the election?
Also, if we get a hung parliament, I can seriously see Labour, the LibDems and the Conservatives supporting a switch to PR voting (as in the Scottish parliament). If that goes through, we will probably never again see a single party government in Westminster.
No single party government (except perhaps the LibDems) elected under the current system would chose the change the voting system as it would not be in their interests.
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03-05-2005, 15:37
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Re: Who do you think will win the election?
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Also, if we get a hung parliament, I can seriously see Labour, the LibDems and the Conservatives supporting a switch to PR voting (as in the Scottish parliament). If that goes through, we will probably never again see a single party government in Westminster.
No single party government (except perhaps the LibDems) elected under the current system would chose the change the voting system as it would not be in their interests.
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Interestingly, Neil Kinnock became enamoured of PR while he was Labour leader. He favours it even today. But when you've lost three elections on the trot it's understandable that you'd start to look at how to change the system to prevent yourself getting left entirely out in ther cold for such a long stretch of time ever again.
By the way, the only reason there is PR in Wales and Scotland is it guarantees the Nationalist parties will never gain overall control, so no embarrassing Independence referendums.
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03-05-2005, 16:24
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Re: Who do you think will win the election?
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Interestingly, Neil Kinnock became enamoured of PR while he was Labour leader. He favours it even today. But when you've lost three elections on the trot it's understandable that you'd start to look at how to change the system to prevent yourself getting left entirely out in ther cold for such a long stretch of time ever again.
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Yes, I remember the Labour party kept on banging on about PR whilst they were in opposition (in fact I seem to recall them forming a pact with the LibDems that they would introduce it once they got into power in 1992 - which they did not  ).
Much like all the other Labour pre-election promises they have gone back on their word now they are in power!
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03-05-2005, 17:11
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Re: Who do you think will win the election?
I have been a bit forlorn for the last couple of weeks or so, as I think Labour would win it comfortably.
However, reading the Guardian today made me a bit happy (never thought i'd say that  ), but it seems Labour's lead isn't as big as it seems. Still, the Oxford idiots might not be the only one throwing themselves off a bridge this week.
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03-05-2005, 17:23
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Re: Who do you think will win the election?
Sadly, I am quite sure Labour will (just) win.
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03-05-2005, 20:18
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Re: Who do you think will win the election?
We were on about at work today and we are all sick to the back teeth of them arguing all the time, they are acting like children and I am sick of the back stabbing and all the bitching.
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03-05-2005, 20:36
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Re: Who do you think will win the election?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2...olltracker.stm
(MORI May 3rd)
There seems ot have been a huge drop in Conservative voters.
Then again, the MORI poll has been all over the place in the past few months if you look at it.
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03-05-2005, 20:45
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Re: Who do you think will win the election?
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But the idiotic way our 'democracy' works, national polls are meaningless. It's the marginals that count.
Roll on PR.
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04-05-2005, 23:52
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Re: Who do you think will win the election?
looks like the Liberal Democrats could take Surrey Heath from the Conservatives.it's going to come down to a few swing voters
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05-05-2005, 00:00
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Re: Who do you think will win the election?
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Roll on PR.
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Abso****inglutely...
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05-05-2005, 00:31
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Re: Who do you think will win the election?
the conservatives might sneak in, in my opinion, there are people around who just want a change from labour and to me it spells a tory revivel, lib dems have a few votes too...possibly mine too but the thing is im torn between the lib dems and conservatives...do i go for the lib dems on policies or give the vote to the tories because i like what michael howard has been saying and believe they will only be serious contenders to get in ?
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05-05-2005, 08:25
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Re: Who do you think will win the election?
you give your vote to the party that's up against labour - i.e. check the results last time round. in my area it is 26000 for labour and something like 10000 for lib dem and a few thousand for conservative. so a votes for the cons is a wasted vote therefore i voted for lib dem as a tactic to unseat our local labour prat. not much of a chance though as he's in a very safe working class seat.
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05-05-2005, 09:24
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Re: Who do you think will win the election?
I am now closing down this discussion, but please feel free to keep on wrangling in the Cable Forum Exit Poll thread:
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=28136
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