teacher jailed !!!!!! - Page 2

29-03-2005, 17:52

I don't blame her for having the pistol. After going through all of that I would have flipped

hairy_mick · 29-03-2005, 18:04

The yobs that were giving her grief will be laughing tonight as that poor women goes to jail there is no justice in jailing her should have been susppended sentence imho.

punky · 29-03-2005, 18:10

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Not if you phone the police and tell them 'I am going over to that field across the road with a gun'. I think that's what got her the prison sentence. As Cookie says, it is premeditated and it is hard to argue that you feel threatened (which she could have done if an intruder was in her house)

Yeah, that's probably why she didn't claim self-defense then.

I still think given the pre, and post circumstances she should have been given a suspended sentence.

cookie_365 · 29-03-2005, 18:12

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Also.. I am suprised she wasn't cleared under the new intrepretation of the laws which say if you feel threatened, you can respond in kind. Certainly a woman on her own versus some young strong trouble causing lads, should be plenty believeable that she was frightened?

Ain't no such 'new interpretation' .... I'm sure we debated this about a month ago; can't remember which thread though.

I'm sure you were part of it; probably concentrating on packing your bags ...

And she wasn't being threatened by anyone so far as I can tell. No-one was on her property or trying to get onto her property. She had no reason to be frightened of anyone. It was she who got the gun, left her own property, went up to a group of people in the street and shot at them, not the other way round.

I don't think she's got any reason to complain about the conviction itself, though as I said earlier unless there's something else we're not being told about.

carlingman · 13-04-2005, 23:42

Well update looks like she is going for another plan to get out after her appeal failed.

New story found here

STONEISLAND · 14-04-2005, 08:59

Gun teacher starts hunger strike

I think this is very sad indeed.

Let her go Now

punky · 14-04-2005, 09:04

I am not too fond of being blackmailed, but I really don't think she should have been jailed in the first place.

STONEISLAND · 14-04-2005, 09:06

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I am not too fond of being blackmailed, but I really don't think she should have been jailed in the first place.

I dont think its blackmail but a last resort to try and get out of where she does not belong.

allieyoung666 · 14-04-2005, 09:08

Why arnt the scroats who made use a gun in jail anyway??? I hope she makes a bloody fortune when she gets out of prison, as the poor woman deserves every penny and the scroats deserve everything they get!

punky · 14-04-2005, 09:24

Apparently one of them who she shot the gun at, went to court and told them not to put her in jail.

Stuart · 14-04-2005, 09:38

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Originally Posted by allieyoung666

Why arnt the scroats who made use a gun in jail anyway??? I hope she makes a bloody fortune when she gets out of prison, as the poor woman deserves every penny and the scroats deserve everything they get!

The problem is (and AFAIK part of the reason she got done) that there was NO PROOF that these were the same guys the vandalised her garden and made prank phone calls.

I am not defending the guys, as they may (I say "may" as the report does not specify what they were doing, so we don't know) have been up to no good anyway, but our legal system does require proof of events (and rightly so in my opinion). Otherwise we could all just cry "I've been attacked", blame someone we didn't like and get them jailed wether they had done anything or not.

Bifta · 14-04-2005, 09:40

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Originally Posted by allieyoung666

Why arnt the scroats who made use a gun in jail anyway??? I hope she makes a bloody fortune when she gets out of prison, as the poor woman deserves every penny and the scroats deserve everything they get!

Nobody made her use a gun, as far as I'm concerned she got exactly what she deserved, take a look at what finally provoked her to shoot at some kids:

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The final provocation came when Walker, who was head of Year 11, in charge of food technology and career's co-ordinator at a school in Eccles at the time, saw a washing up liquid container full of water had been emptied over her son's car.

Someone put WATER on her sons car! Pathetic, she's supposed to be a teacher for kids with behavioural problems, hopefully she'll never get a job working with children again and as for a hunger strike .. pffft .. let her starve, it's her own choice.

banjo · 14-04-2005, 09:40

I think she should have been given a medal !

punky · 14-04-2005, 09:54

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Someone put WATER on her sons car! Pathetic, she's supposed to be a teacher for kids with behavioural problems, hopefully she'll never get a job working with children again and as for a hunger strike .. pffft .. let her starve, it's her own choice.

It wasn't that which drove her to fire an airgun at them, it was years of pent up rage at vandalism, violence and bullying to her children, which caused her explode, uncontrolably. I am not excusing her, but under so much provocation, you can't expect people not to lash out.

Bifta · 14-04-2005, 09:57

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Originally Posted by punky

It wasn't that which drove her to fire an airgun at them, it was years of pent up rage at vandalism, violence and bullying to her children, which caused her explode, uncontrolably. I am not excusing her, but under so much provocation, you can't expect people not to lash out.

Sorry, but I CAN expect her to not shoot at people regardless of what happened, she got what she deserved and should take her oil.