F4J at it again

[papa smurf]

respect to them ...dads get a crapy deal in this country ,whilst some women are allowed to use our children as weapon against us .

[punky]

Good to see Matt O'Connor getting involved again. He did actually bow out as his group was starting to get infested with nasty millitant types, but looks like he's regaining power again

Great banner though - "A father is for life, not just conception" - Now they just need one to mention that fathers/estranged fathers are treated as cashpoints.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

respect to them ...dads get a crapy deal in this country ,whilst some women are allowed to use our children as weapon against us .

Originally Posted by punky

Good to see Matt O'Connor getting involved again. He did actually bow out as his group was starting to get infested with nasty millitant types, but looks like he's regaining power again

Great banner though - "A father is for life, not just conception" - Now they just need one to mention that fathers/estranged fathers are treated as cashpoints.

Agree 100%

A very good friend of mine was thoroughly financially and emotionally shafted by his ex who admitted to him that she wanted custody of the children for purely financial reasons. Since she achieved that aim (in spite of reservations about her acknowledged by CAFCASS) and despite only working part time, all she's done is to use him to do her parenting job whenever possible and palm them off onto other people when he isn't around to do it. Of course every so often she mucks him about and stops him seeing the kids just to remind him who's got all the cards....

It's quite shocking really but the system doesn't give a stuff about the rights of fathers and it's about time it did!

I think it would be a better plan for one parent to get custody for the first 8 years with payments from the other and then for the last 8 years(up to 16)the roles are reversed and the parent who has had custody has to make payments to the other.

Or something along those lines...That way neither is going to be wanting to stitch up the other for the sheer hell of it because what goes around comes around.

Trouble is Coggy too many so called adults like to use the kiddies as chess pieces when they split up\divorce. End of the day the kids welfare is most important and the parent that can best serve the children is the parent that should have majority custody this is not what happens at the minute and it's the kids that suffer.

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Trouble is Coggy too many so called adults like to use the kiddies as chess pieces when they split up\divorce. End of the day the kids welfare is most important and the parent that can best serve the children is the parent that should have majority custody this is not what happens at the minute and it's the kids that suffer.

I know that and I think the courts should be more imaginative in ensuring that all sides get fair and equitable treatment and that should include the children.The courts often fail to appreciate that the children are people too and consequentially many aren't even asked for their preferences.

Personally I would take children away from both parents if these sort of games were being played.They do not benefit the children at all.