Where NTL failed

[Chrysalis]

I forgot to mention telewest dont force transperent proxies as well.

Actually there are many things ntl and telewest have in common.

They both provide cable tv,phone and internet
They both were in financial trouble.
They both have the same cable market dominance in their areas.

If there was a merger I dread to think what would happen, because they are so different from each other.

Twice the speed for the same price? where did that come from.

I would rather pay more for a higher quality service then pay less for an inferior service, its quite a simple view. Luckily my landlord has caved in and although I will be paying more rent and paying for BT to install a line next may I will be moving to uk online for internet (8mbit ADSL 500 gig traffic 39.99 a month) BT for phone (10.50 a month line rental £3 inclusive calls) and sky digital tv (6.50 for family pack more then 6x the channels I have now). I bet I am not the only one who has been fighting to leave ntl.

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

I would rather pay more for a higher quality service then pay less for an inferior service, its quite a simple view. Luckily my landlord has caved in and although I will be paying more rent and paying for BT to install a line next may I will be moving to uk online for internet (8mbit ADSL 500 gig traffic 39.99 a month) BT for phone (10.50 a month line rental £3 inclusive calls) and sky digital tv (6.50 for family pack more then 6x the channels I have now). I bet I am not the only one who has been fighting to leave ntl.

Where do you get those prices from?

[themelon]

Originally Posted by ianathuth

Where do you get those prices from?

Umm quite

£10.50 for BT line rental yes...........ÂÂà ƒâ€šÃ‚£3 calls NO just 5.5p an hour in the evening and weekend.

Sky for £6.50 eh? We would all be on it if it were that cheap! Last time I looked it was £19.50, probably soon due for the annual or bi-annual price rise from Sky. As for more channels.......'most' of them are tripe and shopping.

8Mb ADSL from UK Online........you need to be 2Km from the excahange, and subject to high line quality to get this. It will work best if the exchange is your next door neighbour. Speeds are up to 8Mbs, it will be interesting to see how it performs...........or doesnt when all the lunatics who insist on downloading 165Gb a day sign up to it.......the pipes will congest quickly to say the very least.

Also worth noting BT and Sky are far from the perfect companies some try and paint a picture of them. I would much rather have the services I have now that what I had before.

[Derek]

Well the BT line rental part is OK.

Aside from that I make the Sky Family pack £19.50 a month and the 1st BT together package (option 2) as being £6.00 a month.

Not sure about the ADSL but it looks about what I'd expect.

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

6.50 for family pack more then 6x the channels I have now).

[Tristan]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

If there was a merger I dread to think what would happen, because they are so different from each other.

I can't work out whether this is sarcasm or not?

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Twice the speed for the same price? where did that come from.

£25pm will get you 1Mbit with Telewest, but 2Mbit with NTL (from next year).

[andrew_wallasey]

What a completely stupid topic **yawn** not another telewest vs. ntl topic.

[bigitup_j]

Originally Posted by andrew_wallasey

What a completely stupid topic **yawn** not another telewest vs. ntl topic.

i agree.
the two companies are going to merge in a few months, like it or not. telewest have now finished their refinancing
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/041221/215498_1.html
and ntl will soon finalise the selling off of the broadcast division.
ntl will have more control over the merged company, because it's a larger company - twice as large as telewest.

so soon, ntl and tw customers will have the best (and worse ) of both worlds!

[Chrysalis]

I made mistake I meant the base sky pack equivelent to ntl base pack, doesnt include uk gold and other premier family channels.

I got the prices from ringing them up, this is pretty much planned out now I plan to change over towards the end of april.

After a merger I would expect telewest areas to stay the same and ntl areas to stay the same, ntl will make excuse down to local competition, and telewest call centres will be closed down with india taking over

[themelon]

I would say if they told you any pack was £6.50 they are BSing you.

The Sky Equivilent to the ntl Base Pack is the Value pack which is rubbish, It doesnt even include the freeview channels and costs £13.50

Originally Posted by themelon

I would say if they told you any pack was £6.50 they are BSing you.

The Sky Equivilent to the ntl Base Pack is the Value pack which is rubbish, It doesnt even include the freeview channels and costs £13.50

Hey come on now SKY never give out wrong information

There seems to be an increase in the amount of people swearing even though the censor kicks in but the intention to swear is still implied. This will cease please.

Originally Posted by Mick

There seems to be an increase in the amount of people swearing even though the censor kicks in but the intention to swear is still implied. This will cease please.

Have edited my post

Originally Posted by themelon

I would say if they told you any pack was £6.50 they are BSing you.

The Sky Equivilent to the ntl Base Pack is the Value pack which is rubbish, It doesnt even include the freeview channels and costs £13.50

...and even the 'first month half price' offer only applies to packages at £19.50 and above!

[themelon]

Originally Posted by Bill C

Hey come on now SKY never give out wrong information

No No! Of course not! The Sun shines out of Skys Proverbial Ass

Im looking forward to the snow over christmas anyway, at least my TV viewing will be uninterrupted, and I wont need to keep a brush near my TV