Cash machine scams

Incident like this occurred in my area not long ago, someone applied a plastic cover to a Natwest machine, it looked so convincing. I am always checking the machine I use, when there is a queue I still check it and I do get a lot of funny looks but better to be safe than broke!

[punky]

Originally Posted by Jason1

Because barclays are a pile of crap they have taken 3 months so far to investgate fraudlent use of my account and they still and found f all out knocked them on the head now and gone to halifax

I am with Natwest, and I got my ATM withdrawls refunded in 2 weeks, and my POS withdrawls in 3 weeks.

[bob_builder]

Barclays' new ATM to beat fraud

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4101391.stm

[Steve H]

A simple notice showing a picture of what the card thing looks like should just be placed on the monitor. Before the machine allows anyone to place there card in they should have to press a button saying 'I agree', etc... and then the machine allows them to use it.

[etccarmageddon]

yeah but then they'd put a fake screen over the real one!

[LooeyUK]

Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

yeah but then they'd put a fake screen over the real one!

Id doubt that

[SMHarman]

Remember the old machines that had the perspex window that slid up when you put your card in. Them were the days, they gave out £5ers too.

Originally Posted by SMHarman

Remember the old machines that had the perspex window that slid up when you put your card in. Them were the days, they gave out £5ers too.

Yeah and they also took 5 minutes to.

I am doing my computing project on credit card fraud and looking into ways of reducing it

We had one last year at our local Safeway Store on Nottingham Road in Mansfield, the guy got caught and was jailed for a couple of years I think, he was a illegal immigrant according to the papers.

[zoombini]

Whats the thing to the left of the slot in those pictures?

[SMHarman]

I think it is a lock to open the front.

[Flubflow]

For a start, I wonder why they don't use a hi-tec self lubricating or teflon coated material for the ATM machines facia. In conjuction with the right shape and angle of the facia then it would be extremely diffcult to stick anything to it.

You could also have a sliding screen which swipes back and forth over the whole slot facia every now and again to knock off/detect any fraud device stuck over it. You could do it so that the user has to press a button to instigate a screen swipe over the slot facia before they are allowed to insert the card and use the machine.

Another solution could be to use a camera and image recognition software to detect any change in the shape of the ATM's facia, alert the bank/police and automatically shut down the machine.

[etccarmageddon]

that's fine until someone sticks their chewing gum over the camera lens!

[Flubflow]

Ok then, how about a sensor array in the surface of the material to detect if a large object has been stuck on.

Point is that there is loads of things they could do that would cost less than the amount of money they stand to loose due to this increasing type of fraud.

[Stuart]

IIRC, years ago, on Tommorrows World, they had a cash machine that used signature recognition instead of pins (as well as the image of the signature, it also used the timing and angle of the individual strokes within it, thus making the signature almost impossible to forge).

The way it worked was interesting. It was invented by an RAF engineer, who used Ultrasound to detect fractures in jet engine casings. He came up with the idea of using the same technology in cash machines, and found that when objects were placed on the machine while it was scanning itself, it caused the results of the scan to change.

Maybe this technology could be looked at again.

Still, they seem to have forgotten about the technology