07-11-2004, 17:30
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Re: Find this *******
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Try telling that to Childline 
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07-11-2004, 17:41
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Hmmmm. So a kid is screaming blue murder and having a right tantrum on the bus, right at the back of your head. And no one here would entertain thoughts of throttling the little *******? That level of violence against a kid is unacceptable, sure, but few kids these days are angels.
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In South Wales they'll throw the child and the mother off the bus these days if they cry too much !
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07-11-2004, 18:04
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Yeah I heard about that too - apparently the screaming child was distracting the driver too much.
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07-11-2004, 18:08
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In South Wales they'll throw the child and the mother off the bus these days if they cry too much !
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the bus driver cant do much, he does have to concentrate on the road not have a child who is becoming an irratation to him, an accident is begging to happen...
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07-11-2004, 18:39
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Re: Find this *******
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Yeah I heard about that too - apparently the screaming child was distracting the driver too much.
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but if you look at the big picture , 1 bus crashed against 2 ppl turfed off  , wasnt having a go at you russ btw 
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07-11-2004, 18:40
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Hey I'm not saying I disagreed with it! What I didn't like about that story was the way the driver apparently spoke to the mother, he said something like "Your child is annoying the hell out of me".
It may be how he felt but I don't think he should be allowed to get away with speaking to a passenger like that.
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07-11-2004, 18:47
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Hey I'm not saying I disagreed with it! What I didn't like about that story was the way the driver apparently spoke to the mother, he said something like "Your child is annoying the hell out of me".
It may be how he felt but I don't think he should be allowed to get away with speaking to a passenger like that.
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07-11-2004, 18:52
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wait, this man was reported to look about 28, but was 46?
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07-11-2004, 18:54
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Re: Find this *******
Perhaps it was the way he was dressed?
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07-11-2004, 19:01
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Perhaps it was the way he was dressed?
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maybe , i for one find it very hard to guess ppl's ages 
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08-11-2004, 11:41
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Hmmmm. So a kid is screaming blue murder and having a right tantrum on the bus, right at the back of your head. And no one here would entertain thoughts of throttling the little *******? That level of violence against a kid is unacceptable, sure, but few kids these days are angels.
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You expect the parent to discipline the child.
And this is the problem, what constitutes discipline and what constitutes abuse.
Clearly this man was going over the top and if he's prepared to bray the kid like that in public then god knows what he would do behind closed doors.
But you can't put every parent in the same category, sometimes it is appropriate to discipline a child by smacking them. You cannot always reason with a 3/4/5 year old. Sometimes the best quickest way to convey the message that they have done wrong and should not do that again is short sharp smack. Doing this is not abuse, in fact it is in the best interests of the child.
It is wrong that the government is taking away parental rights/ and responsibilities.
Also child abuse is not always physical but very often verbal and mental. I'd mush rather see a child disciplined by a quick slap to the bum and then hear some loutish teenage mother scream abuse at her child (something I see all to often, and usually at supermarket checkouts for some reason)
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08-11-2004, 12:10
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Play cards with him...
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I'm puzzled as to what Russ or anyone else here plans to do with this man for 5 mins or half an hour?
I dont think you can reason with someone who (alledgedly) beats his child - the best option is to take the kids off them?
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08-11-2004, 13:16
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It's a shame, and very sad really that you had to become a parent first.
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08-11-2004, 13:23
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It's a shame, and very sad really that you had to become a parent first.
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True. But when you are a parent it affects you more because you 'feel' for the kids more.
Before I became a parent I wasn't half as affected by sad stories about children as I am now. 
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08-11-2004, 13:48
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Re: Find this *******
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It's a shame, and very sad really that you had to become a parent first.
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No, you misunderstand. The reason it affects me more now is because whenever I hear a story of a child in pain, or anything nasty happening to kids at all, I automaticially feel like it's my own daughter, so naturally I feel more concerned. I'm with ramrod 100% on this one.
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I'm puzzled as to what Russ or anyone else here plans to do with this man for 5 mins or half an hour?
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The temptation to kick his butt around the room would be VERY difficult to resist.
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