NTL Ireland suspends phone service - Page 2

andygrif · 11-10-2004, 22:42

All interesting stuff this.....the plot thickens as they say. It seems a little unreal that any telco can just turn round and say we're switching you off, find another supplier..bye!

And why would business customers have a different system?

KevAmiga · 11-10-2004, 23:07

Anyone Heared anything yet?

Escapee · 12-10-2004, 07:50

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Originally Posted by andygrif

All interesting stuff this.....the plot thickens as they say. It seems a little unreal that any telco can just turn round and say we're switching you off, find another supplier..bye!

And why would business customers have a different system?

Business customers would be different because it would be viable to offer a normal type telco solution to a larger customer, the only busines that I could see being affected is the corner shop type who have one line. (If they were sold the system)

This gives out further bad vibes about ntl, surely they will have to make a statement at some point! If only to stop rumours and assure the shareholders that its not a financial problem!

dialanothernumb · 12-10-2004, 08:26

My guess is that the consumer telco business is unprofitable in the Republic and NTL have hinted at an excuse (of a vague sort) to explain dropping the telco service but hold on to BB and TV customers

Stuart · 12-10-2004, 11:39

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Originally Posted by dialanothernumb

My guess is that the consumer telco business is unprofitable in the Republic and NTL have hinted at an excuse (of a vague sort) to explain dropping the telco service but hold on to BB and TV customers

Apart from a Telephone line being a legal requirement, surely if this were the case, NTL would just annnounce they were terminating the service, and actually give customers notice to find another Telecoms supplier.

Escapee · 12-10-2004, 11:57

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Originally Posted by scastle

Apart from a Telephone line being a legal requirement, surely if this were the case, NTL would just annnounce they were terminating the service, and actually give customers notice to find another Telecoms supplier.

Anyone know the laws and their licence conditions in the Republic of Ireland on this one?

andrew_wallasey · 12-10-2004, 13:55

Overhead CATV can be a very dodgy system with the cost cutting which went on when the networks where being built.

Stuart · 12-10-2004, 14:13

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Originally Posted by Escapee

Anyone know the laws and their licence conditions in the Republic of Ireland on this one?

Admittedly, I don't. I was just offering what I would think (assuming they are allowed) NTL would do with a non-profit making service.

AFAIK, as long as there is an landline in the house, OFCOM don't care who supplies it.

andrew_wallasey · 12-10-2004, 14:52

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Originally Posted by scastle

Admittedly, I don't. I was just offering what I would think (assuming they are allowed) NTL would do with a non-profit making service.

AFAIK, as long as there is an active landline in the house, OFCOM don't care who supplies it.

There is no legal requirement to have a land line surely?

Bifta · 12-10-2004, 14:54

OFCOM have nothing to do with the Republic of Ireland anyway.

http://www.odtr.ie/

More specifically

http://www.odtr.ie/_fileupload/publi...s/PR111004.pdf

Stuart · 12-10-2004, 15:20

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Originally Posted by andrew_wallasey

There is no legal requirement to have a land line surely?

No, I think the requirement is to have a landline available to the house, but not necessarily connected..

andrew_wallasey · 12-10-2004, 15:59

Who holds the legal obligation to that because our property never had a phone line connected (no BT wire connected from the pole to our house) for several months.

SMHarman · 12-10-2004, 16:06

Telco, Like water, gas and electric (where on the mains) are all considered essential services and as such have service standards that must be adhered to, thats why your Telephone line will be fixed faster than your CATV and also why Telco has battery backup in the event of power cuts.

If this occurred in the UK OFCOM would be all over them as they are effectivly saying do not use your essential service, bit like saying do not drink the tap water, and in the same breath not supplying an alternative (e.g. mobiles to all 2000 people, or to keep the analagy water tankers).

If you do not subscribe to the essential service, then they have no requrement to keep you connected to it.

DeadKenny · 12-10-2004, 16:33

A little more at The Register...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10..._phone_comreg/

altis · 13-10-2004, 13:20

And again (overheating apparently):
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/13/ntl_tellabs/