NTL definition of FREE

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by Hell's Child

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I work in sales, and never use the line "you get free line rental with a tv pack", it is much more true to say the phone line rental is included in the price, which is what I do.

So, working in sales what would you do if a potential customer comes your way who currently has a BT Home Highway ISDN line(s) at home. Note this gives 3 phone numbers, two analogue and one digital.

[Hell's Child]

Originally Posted by SMHarman

So, working in sales what would you do if a potential customer comes your way who currently has a BT Home Highway ISDN line(s) at home. Note this gives 3 phone numbers, two analogue and one digital.

Actually, funny you should mention that setup as I am halfway through dealing with a similar situation in Leeds.

In the case of the one in leeds, the home highway is used for buisness only so they have the 3 phone lines and also have one residential line in the property also. In their case the business lines are there for the home highway only, so basically we can get rid of the 3 lines (analogue * 2 and digital) and do a straight broadband connection and one phone line (for the residential side).

The reason for the delay is that he uses his home highway to dial into his works server, however he is getting his IT guys to set up a connection via broadband, because their work pays for this they have to OK it with the finiance dept first.

[SMHarman]

I use all three numbers (home, small business and small business fax) so would need two additional NTL lines which makes it cheaper to pay NTL the £9.50 for not using their line than to pay for all the additional lines.

[Hell's Child]

Originally Posted by SMHarman

I use all three numbers (home, small business and small business fax) so would need two additional NTL lines which makes it cheaper to pay NTL the £9.50 for not using their line than to pay for all the additional lines.

well it's £7.50 per additional line... i'm not quite sure I catch your drift as to what you are saying though.....

If you use all the lines you would be talking 3 lines (possibly 2) + broadband connection. Again though i'd look at your bill..... talk 24 (with the free calls at any time of the day to landlines) covers upto 3 lines so that could work out for you to help reduce the cost?!

[SMHarman]

Most of the calls are international though and IIR I cannot use OneTel (dial 1878) over the NTL line. NTL charge more than 3p/min to the US (and before someone tells me many others charge less).

EDIT - Sorry this is a serious piece of thread hijacking.

[Hell's Child]

I know of a company that can give calls to the states for 1p per min.... a web based company which works a little like one tel and is by far the cheapest company I have seen for international calls.....


http://www.telestunt.co.uk

I always pass this to my customers who make international calls and it suprised everyone as to how cheap they really are!!!

You can use on bt and ntl... although I usually with-hold this information untill they have joined!!!!

This is I know, but MODS this might be a good bit of info to place on the main page??

[Matth]

http://call18866.co.uk/index2.php - with an 0808 access number for non-BT use - not as convenient as prefix or CPS, but you still only pay for connected calls (unlike telestunt and telediscount, where you pay for the access call).

Also depends if you want to register and have a seperate bill, or just ring and go with telestunt and telediscount.

With 18866 *currently*, Uk calls are 0.5p/min, USA 1p/min and connection fee is only 1p - makes NTL's 3-2-1 tariff and 5p connection fee look sick, SICK, SICK.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Matth

With 18866 *currently*, Uk calls are 0.5p/min, USA 1p/min and connection fee is only 1p - makes NTL's 3-2-1 tariff and 5p connection fee look sick, SICK, SICK.

We use call18866.com and our phone bill is about £5.50 a month, no other provider can touch them for price.

Hell's Child can you confirm the £19.99 price covers the whole country and not just one region, and if so how long is it for?

[Frank]

Complain to the ASA and see what they say. Hey, they know ntl very well, and should have no trouble coming to a fair decision

My parents also use call 18866 to call me in Canada. And they are such good value, problem is nobody knows about them.

[th'engineer]

Originally Posted by Frank

Complain to the ASA and see what they say. Hey, they know ntl very well, and should have no trouble coming to a fair decision

My parents also use call 18866 to call me in Canada. And they are such good value, problem is nobody knows about them.

What your parents or 18866

[Nikko]

Originally Posted by SMHarman

Most of the calls are international though and IIR I cannot use OneTel (dial 1878) over the NTL line. NTL charge more than 3p/min to the US (and before someone tells me many others charge less).

EDIT - Sorry this is a serious piece of thread hijacking.

The International Talk Plan is bundled in with any of the Talk Plans including Talk 24 mentioned by Hell's Child, or available separately with the 321 line for £2/month, and gets you 2p per min to the US, 24/7.

The first question you should always ask yourself when someone says something is "free" is "how much will this cost me"?

A company that offers "free P&P" has already bundled the cost into their profit margin, so any item will probably cost the same as one with P&P being extra.

"Free" just means you're paying for it somewhere else in the transaction.

(NB Of course this *doesn't* apply to companies who offer Free Leather Wrist Cuffs! )

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Graham

(NB Of course this *doesn't* apply to companies who offer Free Leather Wrist Cuffs! )

I'd not say that too loudly Graham, people will be PMing you their address for you to post them!

[Frank]

Originally Posted by Nikko

The International Talk Plan is bundled in with any of the Talk Plans including Talk 24 mentioned by Hell's Child, or available separately with the 321 line for £2/month, and gets you 2p per min to the US, 24/7.

Fair enough, but you have to pay for the bundle to get the International talk plan. Call 18866 is 1ppm with no plan to the US.

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by Frank

Fair enough, but you have to pay for the bundle to get the International talk plan. Call 18866 is 1ppm with no plan to the US.

Just a quick comment about how 18866 keep their charges so low - they don't have to pay for the installation, maintenance and headcount required to keep a telephone network running. That's how they're so cheap.