Euthanasia?

[Nemesis]

I wasn't moderating per se ... just letting those that didn't know that there were other threads about this subject to

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Yes, there was also the case where that man killed his wife who was very ill (it was recent but i forget the names) I believe he went to court but escaped prison.

If I was that ill, I would hope someone would do the same for me.

Same here. I'm very much in favour of euthanasia.

[Jon M]

The arguement is based generally between the utilitarian and deontological ethical viewpoints.

It all depends on whether you think circumstances dictate your actions.. or principles.

I'm predictably of the latter persuasion.

Originally Posted by orangebird

Same here. I'm very much in favour of euthanasia.

Me to, we put animals to sleep when they are suffering.

[Jerrek]

I'm against murder in all forms, no matter what nice names you call it.

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by Jerrek

I'm against murder in all forms, no matter what nice names you call it.

So, what would you do if it were your son losing irreplacable quality of life, in pain 24-7, never happy?

[Jerrek]

Gee, let me see, you think I should murder him? Perhaps take a gun to his head? Or a knife and cut his wrists? Or perhaps a pillow to smother him? How do you prefer murdering people?

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by Jerrek

Gee, let me see, you think I should murder him? Perhaps take a gun to his head? Or a knife and cut his wrists? Or perhaps a pillow to smother him? How do you prefer murdering people?

Sorry, I'll rephrase my question so I can get a lsightly less facetious answer out of you

So, what would you do if it were your son losing irreplacable quality of life, in pain 24-7, never happy (,aside from 'murder' him)?

[Jerrek]

Continue on with my life, earn money to support my family, and so on?

Originally Posted by Jerrek

Gee, let me see, you think I should murder him? Perhaps take a gun to his head? Or a knife and cut his wrists? Or perhaps a pillow to smother him? How do you prefer murdering people?

Your showing a lack of true understanding on this matter.

When someone is suffering the levels of pain and having absolutely no quality of life, I do not think loved ones who are in absolute despair, kill like you have mentioned. Suffering is ended with dignity.

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by Mick

Your showing a lack of true understanding on this matter.

When someone is suffering the levels of pain and having absolutely no quality of life, I do not think loved ones who are in absolute despair, kill like you have mentioned. Suffering is ended with dignity.

Jerrek, I assume your world is perfect and you've never had to see a loved one truly suffer?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Jerrek

Gee, let me see, you think I should murder him? Perhaps take a gun to his head? Or a knife and cut his wrists? Or perhaps a pillow to smother him? How do you prefer murdering people?

Nothing more than an imflammatory comment designed to provoke.

Continue on with my life, earn money to support my family, and so on?

Yes, continue with ""your" life, but think nothing of the life of your (hypothetical) son who is:

suffering the levels of pain and having absolutely no quality of life, I do not think loved ones who are in absolute despair, kill like you have mentioned. Suffering is ended with dignity

That's very gracious of you.

We're kinder to animals than to our own.

[Jerrek]

I've seen plenty of people suffer very horribly, some I know that will never lead the same life again. But, never once in my time as a paramedic have I ever had the though to kill one of the people I'm taking care of.

It is sick.

Now if that person wanted to die and is forbidding me from helping him, knowing he is going to die, that is fine. I'm not about to tell you you can't kill yourself.

Assisted suicides are a little more iffy. If someone is helpless and wants you to kill him, would you? I don't think I can, but I'm not saying it should be wrong. Several years ago I had a friend ask me help him kill himself. He is gay and combined with numerous other factors just decided he has had enough. I didn't. I'm not saying it shouldn't be allowed, just that it doens't sit well with me and at this time I have no real opinion on assisted suicides.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Jerrek

I've seen plenty of people suffer very horribly, some I know that will never lead the same life again. But, never once in my time as a paramedic have I ever had the though to kill one of the people I'm taking care of.

It is sick.

Now if that person wanted to die and is forbidding me from helping him, knowing he is going to die, that is fine. I'm not about to tell you you can't kill yourself.

Assisted suicides are a little more iffy. If someone is helpless and wants you to kill him, would you? I don't think I can, but I'm not saying it should be wrong. Several years ago I had a friend ask me help him kill himself. He is gay and combined with numerous other factors just decided he has had enough. I didn't. I'm not saying it shouldn't be allowed, just that it doens't sit well with me and at this time I have no real opinion on assisted suicides.

Thank you for your more reasoned response. I agree with your comments.

Assisted suicides are a little more iffy.

They certainly are which is why this topic is such a delicate one.

[Jerrek]

The thread is titled euthanasia, not assisted suicides. Euthanasia is when you, on your own, decide someone's life is not worth it and you kill him, without his request.

That is murder.