BT Lowers BB Prices.

[themelon]

My experience of BT Broadband (Connect)

You would be lucky to get even close to those Upload and Download speeds, there are and still are far better providers.

The 1GB and 15GB Caps make those services pretty pointless.

The 30GB Cap is OK, but I expect that BT will be a lot more stringent on enforcing the cap I remember BT sending a letter when I was online for 24hours+ on dial up, unlike ntl who will only contact you if you break the 1GB Cap 3 days in a row.

man oh man, and I'm about to move house to somewhere that has no cable and will be beyond the reach of ADSL for the forseeable future

I'd be seriously considering BT if I had that option. But if their retail prices are dropping, will there not be a reduction in wholesale prices as well? Presumably the Nildrams and the Pipexes of this world now have an opportunity to reduce their own prices as well, meaning even cheaper broadband.

[cichlid]

It's a shame that no one (officially) from NTL would post a comment on this to the forum. I hate being treated like a mushroom.

[Chris W]

Originally Posted by cichlid

It's a shame that no one (officially) from NTL would post a comment on this to the forum. I hate being treated like a mushroom.

If you want an official comment, call ntl's National Press Queries on 01256 752 860 and ask for one

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by cichlid

It's a shame that no one (officially) from NTL would post a comment on this to the forum. I hate being treated like a mushroom.

Why do you think you're being treated like a mushroom?

Soon enough, ntl will be providing 1.5meg, so the comparison of speed for money won't apply. Also, ntls usage guide ISN'T 30GB a month. It just asks you not to exceed 1GB a day for 3 consecutive in a fornight. So, you could do 5, 10 or 20GB in a day for 3 days, then 1GB a day for the rest of the fortnight, and still be within the AUP. I know what I'd rather

Originally Posted by monkeybreath

If you want an official comment, call ntl's National Press Queries on 01256 752 860 and ask for one

Where presumably a helpful press officer will say, "we don't comment on the products of third parties or enter into speculation about the future of our own services. And I think you'd look delicious chopped up in a spaghetti bolognese."

[Nutty]

To be precise "M" when used with bits is 1000 whereas it is 1024 when used with bytes, so:

BT 1Mb £29.99 / 1000 = 0.02999

NTL 1.5Mb £37.99 / 1500 = 0.02533

Utter bollox.

1Mbit is 1,048,576 bits. i.e. 1024 * 1024.
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...s+in+a+megabit

You say its 1000. I dont know where 1000 comes into it, you're at least 3 zero's short.

Even if it was 1,000,000 bits in a megabit, that would only yield a maximum of 122Kbytes per second, and I get more than that on the 1Mbit service.

The only ppl I know of that classify Mega as 1million exactly is hard-drive manufacturers. I'm pretty sure ntl dont classify it like this.

[BlueMeany]

Originally Posted by orangebird

Why do you think you're being treated like a mushroom?

Soon enough, ntl will be providing 1.5meg, so the comparison of speed for money won't apply. Also, ntls usage guide ISN'T 30GB a month. It just asks you not to exceed 1GB a day for 3 consecutive in a fornight. So, you could do 5, 10 or 20GB in a day for 3 days, then 1GB a day for the rest of the fortnight, and still be within the AUP. I know what I'd rather

Is there anywhere that I can download a "download counter"?

I know I can use the two flickering monitors in my system tray to get a rough guide... but this counter obviously resets itself each time the PC is turned on/off (which for me isn't strictly "daily" or 24hrs)

Having something that would chart my downloads properly... so I can check, would be nice.

[Chris W]

You could try DUmeter it is only a 30 day trial, but it should give you an indication.

If you have a home network you will be better off using MRTG

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by towny

Where presumably a helpful press officer will say, "we don't comment on the products of third parties or enter into speculation about the future of our own services. And I think you'd look delicious chopped up in a spaghetti bolognese."

[scrotnig]

I notice a DISTINCT absence of those well known people who have done nothing but bang on and on and on like a Duracell battery about how bad ntl's cap is.

Come on then guys...not only is BT putting a cap in place that is the same or even harsher than ntl's, but they have also stated that from January 2005 it will not just be a guideline but will be *strictly* enforced.

So, why no complaints about this from the usual suspects? Or could it be that all they want to do, as has long been suspected, is to bash ntl at every opportunity in order to satisfy their own personal agenda.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Mark B

I notice a DISTINCT absence of those well known people who have done nothing but bang on and on and on like a Duracell battery about how bad ntl's cap is.

Come on then guys...not only is BT putting a cap in place that is the same or even harsher than ntl's, but they have also stated that from January 2005 it will not just be a guideline but will be *strictly* enforced.

So, why no complaints about this from the usual suspects? Or could it be that all they want to do, as has long been suspected, is to bash ntl at every opportunity in order to satisfy their own personal agenda.

Hi Mark

I am guessing that I am one of the people you are referring to (not a problem)

The difference between BT's cap & ntl's is that BT haven't tried to hide the fact. It is clearly advertised & mentioned.

ntl on the other hand, chose to slip theirs into their AUP late on a Friday night hoping that no one would notice (I should know-it was us that broke the story)

It comes down to honesty & professionalism, & ntl lacked both when it came to amending their AUP regarding the cap IMO.

As ever-that is not a reflection on any associates that post here, just the people at the top who make the buffoon decisions & make your jobs harder.

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by Mark B

I notice a DISTINCT absence of those well known people who have done nothing but bang on and on and on like a Duracell battery about how bad ntl's cap is.

Come on then guys...not only is BT putting a cap in place that is the same or even harsher than ntl's, but they have also stated that from January 2005 it will not just be a guideline but will be *strictly* enforced.

So, why no complaints about this from the usual suspects? Or could it be that all they want to do, as has long been suspected, is to bash ntl at every opportunity in order to satisfy their own personal agenda.

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by Neil

Hi Mark

I am guessing that I am one of the people you are referring to (not a problem)

The difference between BT's cap & ntl's is that BT haven't tried to hide the fact. It is clearly advertised & mentioned.

ntl on the other hand, chose to slip theirs into their AUP late on a Friday night hoping that no one would notice (I should know-it was us that broke the story)

It comes down to honesty & professionalism, & ntl lacked both when it came to amending their AUP regarding the cap IMO.

As ever-that is not a reflection on any associates that post here, just the people at the top who make the buffoon decisions & make your jobs harder.

Oh. come on Neil! And the rest of you who still haven't gotten over it - IT WAS ABOUT 18 MONTHS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

[Neil]

Originally Posted by orangebird

Oh. come on Neil! And the rest of you who still haven't gotten over it - IT WAS ABOUT 18 MONTHS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

That doesn't make it right though I'm afraid

They were (IMO) deliberately deceiptful in what they did, & the way they did it.

Not what they did. but they way they did it.