Burglary

[Mr_love_monkey]

Originally Posted by Nemesis

Anyone else got any useful advice for Home security.

Get a big 'ck-off dog....

Hearing a big dog bark is still the biggest deterent ...

My mum has always had dogs in the house (the most recent one being a large German Shepard) - and (touch wood) she's never had any problems.

[iadom]

Originally Posted by MovedGoalPosts

Modern security rated replacement windows can be very secure. Multipoint locking with night vent catches, anti jemmy hinges and dead bolts, internal glazing beads, etc. To get in basically the lowlife is gonna have to break the window.

Same applies to security doors.

One very important thing to remember, especially for upstairs windows, whilst you should make them as secure as possible to prevent entry, you must make sure that exit can be achieved as quickly as possible. Modern double glazed units can be very difficult to break, so make sure the key to any locking mechanism is always to hand.

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by ianathuth

The same goes for upvc windows. When we had ours installed we chose a company that supplied internal beading and were very glad that we did. We had several companies quote for the work, most of these having external beading and saying that they were very secure. When our internally beaded windows were installed one of the units was cracked and had to be replaced. Took the installer around a minute to get the old unit out using nothing but a one inch wide paint scraper. He said that he could get a unit out in a quarter of that time if he wasn't bothered about damaging anything.

they must have been cheap **** windows then , proper external beaded windows when used with double sided tape on the inside are as secure as internally beaded ones

[MovedGoalPosts]

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

they must have been cheap **** windows then , proper external beaded windows when used with double sided tape on the inside are as secure as internally beaded ones

You pays for what you gets. When you get a quote of £1399.0 0 or whatever as implied by the dodgy radio ads for [insert iffy window installer company name here - they aren't worth the publicity of me naming them!] these will be for the most basic extrusions, and maybe one opener if you're lucky. When they get their salesman through the door you'll find out the real costs of all those added extras which should be regarded as essential.

Internal glazing has to be a better option than external. Double sided tape may reduce the ease of getting the frame apart, but if you do need to replace the glass (even if the glass doesn't break, the seal can fail leading to condensation or misting of the double galzed pane), you don't want to wreck the frame and beading by levering against adhesive.

Sorry to hear that Nem

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by MovedGoalPosts

You pays for what you gets. When you get a quote of £1399.0 0 or whatever as implied by the dodgy radio ads for [insert iffy window installer company name here - they aren't worth the publicity of me naming them!] these will be for the most basic extrusions, and maybe one opener if you're lucky. When they get their salesman through the door you'll find out the real costs of all those added extras which should be regarded as essential.

Internal glazing has to be a better option than external. Double sided tape may reduce the ease of getting the frame apart, but if you do need to replace the glass (even if the glass doesn't break, the seal can fail leading to condensation or misting of the double galzed pane), you don't want to wreck the frame and beading by levering against adhesive.

very true , you get what you pay for , i still external and tape is better though , and i think i will leave it at that , sorry to hear the news as well nemmy

[Bex]

Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey

Get a big 'ck-off dog....

Hearing a big dog bark is still the biggest deterent ...

My mum has always had dogs in the house (the most recent one being a large German Shepard) - and (touch wood) she's never had any problems.

nemmy you can borrow jaz or laura for a week....the dog will scare anyone anyway...
and laura...well they will see her and run :pp

[Tezcatlipoca]

Sorry to hear of the break-in, Nem

Originally Posted by Nemesis

We got burgled day before yesterday ...

They (although I think it was 1 bloke), went round the back of the house and Jemmied a window with a screwdriver.

We had window locks on all the downstairs windows, and they just popped off .

They didn't get a lot, in fact I think we were rather lucky, but still it's not nice to think of someone being in your house uninvited.

We've had the Police round, and the Scenes of Crime Officers. This was the other thing that suprised me .... They can only get fingerprints from surfaces that are smooth and hard ... mirrors, wood, glass, etc ..

We had 2 Jewellry boxes stolen, we found one of them dumped, but no fingerprints because the surface is slightly mottled.

The house is returning back to normal now ... extra security has been added, but I was still shocked that the normal window locks are so woefully inadequate.

Anyone else got any useful advice for Home security.

Nasty experience I know, we got burgled about 14 years ago and we were in bed. I managed to disturb them I believe because the house was still warm when I went downstarirs at 6am and discovered the patio door laid on the floor (levered up with a spade).

Alarms:-
Nah big fecking nuisance, no one takes the slightest bit of notice when the bloody things go off.

Dog:-
Better than most security devices but not always a deterrent as my mate found out when they managed to lock he german shepherd in the kitchen whilst they walked out the front door with just about everything from the house.

What do I recommoned?
A combination of perhaps the dog and a LOT of security devices, no large opening windows, no conservatories, double at least locks on the doors, preferably treble locking and a decent window company to fit the lot. Also if going away try and get someone to stay in your house.

If all else fails, find out who did it and break his ****ing legs with a baseball bat. Put every window on his house through, trash his car break his legs again and once recovered for the second time do it a third time. Oh yeah and if you want to be really nasty try pulling his finger and toe nails out and putting the bleeding mess in a bag of pickled onion monster munch.

Ok so I'm making light of it a touch, but seriously try asking around, I bet you'll find out you sorta know who did it.