Football : Season 2013/14 & Summer Window

[colin25]

Originally Posted by Mr Pharmacist

Oh come on, you can't claim intelligence goes by the size of your bank balance! Jordan's minted but I wouldn't trust her to teach my youngest the 3 times table! If people are going to guess the supposed identity of the "grass" then when someone mentions being thick I'm entitled to chuck Waynes name in there aren't I?

+1

[thenry]

Jordons minted because of her fans. Rooneys minted because of Utds fans. Whos the thick bunch? Rooney essentially told the entire Utd arrogant bunch to f off twice. The 1st to get his 250k and the second to be golden boy.

[Mr Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by thenry

Jordons minted because of her fans. Rooneys minted because of Utds fans. Whos the thick bunch? Rooney essentially told the entire Utd arrogant bunch to f off twice. The 1st to get his 250k and the second to be golden boy.

I like your reasoning but I ain't going there! I'm off for a few so everyone enjoy their evening.

[thenry]

Most get drunk and stay online. I see we have another Colin, someone who cannot multitask

Talking of Colin, Gervinho had a shot and saw the ball leave the stadium. Just waiting for him to fall over now but he'll most likely score now i've cursed lol

[Shadow Demon UK]

Originally Posted by thenry

Roma v Napoli 7:45pm BT Sport 1

also on around the same time

Nice v Marseille - ESPN
Hoffenhaim v Bayern Leverkusen - BT Sports 2

Huge blunder by the ref in that Hoffenhaim game... http://youtu.be/e64cIqth0R4

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by colin25

you mean, who pointed out the asinine comment by a manager who should know better?

"feed the monkey" in reference to a black person, and he is surprised it might be offensive?

that might have surprised someone in the 70s, but was of questionable judgement these days.

Yes the man who rushed straight of and pointed it out to the press rather than anyone else. Do you know what was said Colin because the chap it was aimed at said he wasn't offended and no offence was meant but hey ho you want to join the seemingly endless legions of people who want to get offended on done one elses behalf that's up to you.

[adzii_nufc]

A simple 5 second video from the fourth official would have resolved this phantom goal. Oh how I love FIFA and the corrupt overpaid non footballing experienced pensioners running it.

Shows you the sportsmanship of the other team too. I'd have just walked off. Balls to FIFA fining me.

It'll take away the human elements of the game will it? What's human about Gareth Bale impersonating a salmon every time someone comes near him? Or that little Brazillian with the duster on his head doing his best rolling pin impression when somebody looks at him.

FIFA have a stance that basically tells us all its fine to cheat as long as you're not caught on the field. Basically if I've slept with another woman but haven't been caught in the act my missus can't hold it against me should she ever find out because of FIFA logic.

Again the ball was rolling the night Arsenal robbed Celtic of any hope of coming back...well specifically Eduardo. Typically though someone had to ruin it. Arsene Wenger of all people who claimed it was a disgrace Eduardo was banned for cheating.

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As for this Hodgson nonsense. It's little more than dressing room banter. No one's been affected by this but anything to sell some pieces of paper right..

[Shadow Demon UK]

Really in instances like this the player should own up. You can see him with his head in his hands when he missed, but then celebrating after the ref gives it. Its quite embarrassing on Kießlings part.

[colin25]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Yes the man who rushed straight of and pointed it out to the press rather than anyone else. Do you know what was said Colin because the chap it was aimed at said he wasn't offended and no offence was meant but hey ho you want to join the seemingly endless legions of people who want to get offended on done one elses behalf that's up to you.

Are you saying, that as long as the person the comment was aimed at isn't offended, then the comments are ok?
The use of a variety of words were used over the years, "n" word etc.
And often it was said as an excuse, "he doesn't mind me calling him that, so it is ok".

And now, because it is Roy, the recently successful england manager, it should be ignored?

Did i not hear others shouting about suarez and his comments? Not meant as intended. Others seemed to take offence, when it was the perogative of the one offended.

And finally, I need to question Roy's judgement, that he did not even considered that it might offend. That is worrying for an adult over the age of 5. Just because the FA his employer backs him doesn't make it right.

[Russ]

You have to take in context. Players use a lot worse language and name-calling on the pitch. Probably not connected to race or skin colour as much (unless Chelsea are playing) but still pretty offensive. No I'm not saying it's right, just that it should be taken in context.

[colin25]

Originally Posted by Russ

You have to take in context. Players use a lot worse language and name-calling on the pitch. Probably not connected to race or skin colour as much (unless Chelsea are playing) but still pretty offensive. No I'm not saying it's right, just that it should be taken in context.

I agree. The context is that it was said by an england manager to a team of mixed race footballers, and he referred to the black player as a monkey.

And he didn't think it might cause offence? Really?

[Russ]

Yes, because he didn't mean 'monkey' in the way you think he did. This is what I mean, in context.

I'd agree his words were probably unwise considering the player is black but offensive? Not unless RH was suggesting he is/looks like a 'monkey'.

[colin25]

Originally Posted by Russ

Yes, because he didn't mean 'monkey' in the way you think he did. This is what I mean, in context.

I'd agree his words were probably unwise considering the player is black but offensive? Not unless RH was suggesting he is/looks like a 'monkey'.

Yes, I agree that he probably didn't mean that, I just worry he couldn't spot the obvious bear trap.

I know in my job, i would be pulled up for some diversity training at minimum...and potentially worse.

And whilst some think it sounds "ok", because some black former players say it wasn't racist, they don't get to decide. Or would we go to them for every incident, and if they are in a favourable mood to the person cited, and they say it is ok.


No matter, just making a point. As i don't get to decide (except for myself).

[Russ]

Originally Posted by colin25

And whilst some think it sounds "ok", because some black former players say it wasn't racist, they don't get to decide. Or would we go to them for every incident, and if they are in a favourable mood to the person cited, and they say it is ok.

That wouldn't be the angle I'm coming from. At a guess I reckon RH said it legitimately innocently as he is probably so far from racist it didn't occur to him, plus the team (and likely the FA) know him well enough to be sure he didn't mean it in a negative context.

My view is this story was only leaked in an attempt to get racism at the highest (footballing) level discussed in the media.

[colin25]

Originally Posted by Russ

That wouldn't be the angle I'm coming from. At a guess I reckon RH said it legitimately innocently as he is probably so far from racist it didn't occur to him, plus the team (and likely the FA) know him well enough to be sure he didn't mean it in a negative context.

My view is this story was only leaked in an attempt to get racism at the highest (footballing) level discussed in the media.

No comment on the leak, not overly concerned the purposes for the leak. If it wasn't said..leak wouldn't happen.